HevyDevy wrote:

I believe needs root rights as i have to install xserver-xorg-legacy and the modify  /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
to have..
needs_root_rights=yes

Nope.

Devuan beowulf can now run rootless X OOTB (as long as the startx command is used) thanks to elogind

That may be true if using elogind but elogind depends on dbus and as i dont have dbus enabled and i have it pinned i have to use xserver-xorg-legacy. Thems the disadvantage of not using dbus i suppose.

I believe needs root rights as i have to install xserver-xorg-legacy and the modify  /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
to have..
needs_root_rights=yes

Nope.

Devuan beowulf can now run rootless X OOTB (as long as the startx command is used) thanks to elogind

What about if you have ~/.xsession with just exec dwm and then add ~/.xsessionrc to source ~/.profile?

You probably shouldn't use xdm any way because it will run X under the root user. The startx command runs X under your normal user, which is much better.

Can confirm that having ~/.xsession with just exec dwm and ~/.xsessionrc sourcing ~/.profile is the solution.

I prefer startx but even that i believe needs root rights as i have to install xserver-xorg-legacy and the modify  /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
to have..
needs_root_rights=yes

I was just interested to use xdm as it seems like the only display manager that does not need dbus as a dependency.

Anyhow thanks.

EDIT: correction looks like lxdm doesnt need dbus either.

You probably shouldn't use xdm any way because it will run X under the root user. The startx command runs X under your normal user, which is much better.

if    [ -r ~/.profile ]; then
        . ~/.profile; 
fi

exec dwm

dwm is from suckless.org so, built from source.

There is definetly something im missing here, if i go back to startx and remove xdm .profile is sourced again.

EDIT: hold on, did you source ~/.profile before the exec dwm line? Nothing in that file will be read after an exec statement.

And ~/.xsessionrc isn't really intended as a replacement for ~/.xsession, it is an adjunct to that file.

Devuan's display managers should automatically start whatever is set as the x-session-manager alternative with no need for further configuration, or /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager otherwise.

How did you install dwm? Is it the Devuan package or did you compile it yourself?

I only have .xsessionrc and in that file is

exec dwm

.profile is still not sourced so lets add in what it says in regards to Xsession

https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession

nope .profile is still not being sourced.

https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession

And you should use ~/.xsession instead of ~/.xinitrc (rather than as well as), at least according to the startx man page.

Should i be using .xprofile instead? <-- tried this, did not work copying over contents of .profile to .xprofile, not having .profile sourced means it loses some of my $PATH setup there.

In the meantime i found a decent fix whereby i just add in a file to  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75local-profile

# Source a users .profile, etc
PROFILES="/etc/profile $HOME/.profile /etc/xprofile $HOME/.xprofile"

for PROFILE in $PROFILES ; do
  [ -f "$PROFILE" ] && . "$PROFILE"
done

/bin/true

credit to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20 … 02457.html

Regards.