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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=35257#p35257</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I wondered if you were still around, I wasn&#039;t sure if you left for good or not.</p><p>I looked at this thread of yours once, on your website, the first comment to you was rude for sure but some of it made sense,<br /><a href="http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com/2021/07/icon-tray-and-indicators-dissapears.html#comment-form" rel="nofollow">http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com/2021/0 … mment-form</a></p><p>I was with him somewhat until this nonsense that he spewed in his comment:</p><p>&quot;And another thing, increasing RAM is valid for any computer instead of your useless argument of planet resources or that 64 bits are the devil. You really suck.&quot;</p><p>Planet resources dying is an extremely huge problem, you almost wonder if having a bunch of huge data collection corporations that waste massive amounts of water, for the sake of so called protection of national security might be a probem... that being said, 64 bit is not at all a problem if people would use some common sense in the design.</p><p>Hmm... </p><p>I wonder... </p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Not that ram has to be a problem, its just that&#160; efficiency is not valued enough on making all technology work efficiently. </p><p>Controlling everything seems to be many times more times important in tech sector, which may very well destroy the planet at some point.</p><p>Even Debian, has a lot of this, it is though at least good they have become more reasonable, but yeah, that person who replied to you, has an ego that makes me shiver.</p><p><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2022 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=35144#p35144</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>larsH wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hi again</p><p>With the above reasons Devuan is not meant for you. So go and look somewhere else. Stop trolling, please.</p><p>Have a nice day<br />Lars H</p></div></blockquote></div><p>To be honest, I kind of miss that troll, he was amusing, albeit, not always. </p><p>Meh, welp, easy come, easy go, it seems.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>to be honest.. devuan has lack of manpower.. that&#039;s is a fact and is a good leadeership response to reconice that! but why ? </p><p>every time someone says that something is wrong as it works for the Veterans blah blah blah they assume that everyone does too..</p><p>don&#039;t worry... I still use devuan... of course only what works because for desktop it doesn&#039;t </p><p>CHANGED THE HORRENTOUS FIRST CHOSEND COLORS RIUGHT? goot one! as always.. wehre forced to change! XD</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mckaygerhard)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=35136#p35136</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>larsH wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hi again</p><p>With the above reasons Devuan is not meant for you. So go and look somewhere else. Stop trolling, please.</p><p>Have a nice day<br />Lars H</p></div></blockquote></div><p>To be honest, I kind of miss that troll, he was amusing, albeit, not always. </p><p>Meh, welp, easy come, easy go, it seems.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32089#p32089</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>cafinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>So yes I&#039;m putting my hand up if something needs doing . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>perhaps <span class="bbu"><a href="https://bugs.devuan.org/" rel="nofollow">fix a bug</a></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p>This prompted me to have a look at the bug tracker, but I can&#039;t even figure out how to find any relevant bug reports, which perhaps disqualifies me before I even started. All the packages I looked at simply say &quot;There is no maintainer for [package]. This means that this package no longer exists (or never existed). Please do not report new bugs against this package.&quot; - and the reports say (correctly) that the error is upstream with Debian. I imagine this will be the case with the vast majority of bugs. Is there a list of bugs that are actually with Devuan, and where it&#039;s worth looking to see if one can help?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 21:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=31377#p31377</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>All help will be gratefully received, I have no doubt, if I could be more useful, I would, but I&#039;m just an end user, so I promote Devuan where I can, without making myself into a zealot. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Camtaf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cafinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>So yes I&#039;m putting my hand up if something needs doing . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Good intentions without action bears no fruit.&#160; He who seeks, finds.&#160; You are most welcome to offer solutions to posts on this forum or perhaps <span class="bbu"><a href="https://bugs.devuan.org/" rel="nofollow">fix a bug</a></span>.&#160; Only you know your skillset and abilities and can choose to offer them to the community.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know if I should be speaking up here as I have only been using Devuan for about 2 years, but I&#039;m loving it and feel guilty that I&#039;m not doing anything to help. I only came because I ran foul of systemd with some networking which they were taking over and limiting. So yes I&#039;m putting my hand up if something needs doing, and I kind of figure there&#039;s a few more of us around too. So cheers to something really good.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mckaygerhard wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>take into account that<strong> all the post that said somethig hard but true.. is banned as &quot;are you tyrolling&quot; ..</strong> interesting from Devuan forum administrations.. </p><p>the problem is not Debian .. the problem is the position of the Devuan conclave.. it must work aside with Debian cos it depends of debian .. </p><p>antix team is a good aproach.. +1 for.. but i guess is more an idea of anitx/mxlinux team rather an idea of devuan teams.. that&#039;s the point</p><p>CAN YOU GUYS CHANGE THEIR MIND, well i back to work.. i must talk with tdenetwork packagers.. i found some details in the php packages.. and i remade many of them fixed for Devuan</p></div></blockquote></div><p>??? </p><p>I must have missed something...</p><p>Although it would be awesome if devuan had enough devs to maintain devuan without needing to fork debian.</p><p>Not the reality yet though, but someday maybe!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2021 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>another of my proposal was make the trinity desktop the default in devuan but as aways rejected and without interes</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The reson given was that the TDE build sould run iside the devuan buildbot environment. As there is not enough manpower to do this (and from the TDE side there&#039;s no need to do this) it will not happen in the &quot;near&quot; future.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>That is a shame,&#160; trinity desktop looks better visually then kde or gnome in my opinion...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Definitly. But it&#039;s just 5 lines to install TDE on devuan <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (samhain)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2021 13:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27233#p27233</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>take into account that<strong> all the post that said somethig hard but true.. is banned as &quot;are you tyrolling&quot; ..</strong> interesting from Devuan forum administrations.. </p><p>the problem is not Debian .. the problem is the position of the Devuan conclave.. it must work aside with Debian cos it depends of debian .. </p><p>antix team is a good aproach.. +1 for.. but i guess is more an idea of anitx/mxlinux team rather an idea of devuan teams.. that&#039;s the point</p><p>CAN YOU GUYS CHANGE THEIR MIND, well i back to work.. i must talk with tdenetwork packagers.. i found some details in the php packages.. and i remade many of them fixed for Devuan</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mckaygerhard)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 12:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>PedroReina wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>trinity desktop looks better visually then kde or gnome in my opinion...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t argue about personal tastes, buy I think that we have to take into account that any of them are highly themable.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well to be honest, my favorite DE is Lumina Desktop.</p><p>And my favorite overall desktop whether it be window manager or desktop environment... </p><p>i3-wm <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>I like the fact its lightweight, easy to modify keybindings, etc... </p><p>And it has a status bar and it focuses on minimalism in general. But not too minimalistic... like dwm. </p><p>heh...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 11:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27223#p27223</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>trinity desktop looks better visually then kde or gnome in my opinion...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t argue about personal tastes, but I think that we have to take into account that any of them are highly themable.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PedroReina)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mckaygerhard wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>KDE is based on qt5 and past, </p><p>Trinity is based on an old version of qt3.</p><p>So...&#160; yeah, </p><p>Trinity can easily survive without KDE.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>trinity are away of KDE now.. a lot.. inclusivelly begins a muslc integration (very poor but there is).. in fact there&#039;s some plans to tqt3 (that you named qt3) integrates to qt4 and qt5 (partially right now with qt4)</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Unless I am missing something.<br />PS, qt3 is being maintained by the trinity devs also.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>yeah you missing a lot.. now is named tqt3 .. they changed a lot and still use /opt path to install until the naming space are complete (from kde to tde)</p><p>another of my proposal was make the trinity desktop the default in devuan but as aways rejected and without interes</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is a shame,&#160; trinity desktop looks better visually then kde or gnome in my opinion...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27125#p27125</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>KDE is based on qt5 and past, </p><p>Trinity is based on an old version of qt3.</p><p>So...&#160; yeah, </p><p>Trinity can easily survive without KDE.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>trinity are away of KDE now.. a lot.. inclusivelly begins a muslc integration (very poor but there is).. in fact there&#039;s some plans to tqt3 (that you named qt3) integrates to qt4 and qt5 (partially right now with qt4)</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Unless I am missing something.<br />PS, qt3 is being maintained by the trinity devs also.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>yeah you missing a lot.. now is named tqt3 .. they changed a lot and still use /opt path to install until the naming space are complete (from kde to tde)</p><p>another of my proposal was make the trinity desktop the default in devuan but as aways rejected and without interes</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mckaygerhard)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2021 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27117#p27117</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>KDE is based on qt5 and past, </p><p>Trinity is based on an old version of qt3.</p><p>So...&#160; yeah, </p><p>Trinity can easily survive without KDE.</p><p>Unless I am missing something.</p><p>PS, qt3 is being maintained by the trinity devs also.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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