tlathm wrote:

I was just looking and it doesn't appear I kept track, and can't recall. However seeing as version 28.7.2 is available I just kicked off an update (running with nice), and will post back. To clarify, this is an old Dell 8250 with a 2.53GHz P4...pretty ancient.

Compiling Palemoon 28.7.2 with gcc 8.3.0 (using nice) took me almost exactly 12 hours:

time nice emerge -auv palemoon
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ~] www-client/palemoon-28.7.2::palemoon [28.5.0::palemoon] USE="devtools gtk2 jemalloc official-branding optimize -dbus -debug -gnome (-gtk3) -necko-wifi -pulseaudio -threads -valgrind" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse sse2" 0 KiB
....
real	722m4.230s
user	550m32.601s
sys	33m4.531s

Also note that I only have 2 GB of RAM which is a big factor as well. No possible way could I compile FF I'd imagine, even if it didn't require rust (the rust source alone is like 275 MB....ouch).

Tom

Thanks for the feedback Tom. Ive watched a few of linus tech tips videos where he uses some top tier hardware and has compiled FF in under 30 minutes which is pretty decent, but i think the machine had a cpu with 64 cores and over 300 GB of ram. Cant remember which video at the moment.

I was just looking and it doesn't appear I kept track, and can't recall. However seeing as version 28.7.2 is available I just kicked off an update (running with nice), and will post back. To clarify, this is an old Dell 8250 with a 2.53GHz P4...pretty ancient.

Compiling Palemoon 28.7.2 with gcc 8.3.0 (using nice) took me almost exactly 12 hours:

time nice emerge -auv palemoon
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ~] www-client/palemoon-28.7.2::palemoon [28.5.0::palemoon] USE="devtools gtk2 jemalloc official-branding optimize -dbus -debug -gnome (-gtk3) -necko-wifi -pulseaudio -threads -valgrind" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse sse2" 0 KiB
....
real	722m4.230s
user	550m32.601s
sys	33m4.531s

Also note that I only have 2 GB of RAM which is a big factor as well. No possible way could I compile FF I'd imagine, even if it didn't require rust (the rust source alone is like 275 MB....ouch).

Tom

Dbus free devuan was mentioned by mmaglis in those threads quoted. Just saying as i didnt bother answering freemedia in regards to to this. There is also fsmithreds thread for refracta nodbus https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2158

yeah, thanks to everybody for their replies, no worries hevy.

Interesting, what was the compile time for palemoon on that old hardware? Im pretty sure my old hardware would probably break if using the cpu at 100 % for more than 30 minutes, but ive never tried it so cant comment.

I was just looking and it doesn't appear I kept track, and can't recall. However seeing as version 28.7.2 is available I just kicked off an update (running with nice), and will post back. To clarify, this is an old Dell 8250 with a 2.53GHz P4...pretty ancient.

I can tell you that it's nothing compared to Libreoffice, which I build from source via Gentoo (as rarely as I can get away with). That takes like a day and a half!

Tom

freemedia2018 wrote:

i would love a little tutorial for dbus-free devuan.

These may be of help:

https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … thout-dbus

https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … e-software

I followed them and I am dbus free, happily using either console, Openbox, EXWM or Stumpwm on my aged laptop.

Dbus free devuan was mentioned by mmaglis in those threads quoted. Just saying as i didnt bother answering freemedia in regards to to this. There is also fsmithreds thread for refracta nodbus https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2158

Ive no inclination to build FF from source, much the same as i couldn't be bothered maintain my own kernel, if i did i would run something like Crux or Gentoo. Devuan, Debian do a decent job packaging up the kernel and then some web browsers even if having some deps on dbus libraries.

2 people refusing to use capital letters in one thread...

Was that a capital "2" in your sentence?

Ok, and back to serious ... dear mods ... please chop this case discussion off and beam it into the offtopic section.

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mckaygerhard wrote:

OBS provides easyle and agnostic environment for right dependences (where you can see if all are meet or fails for some one)

if i were going to compile ff at all, part of the reason would be limited trust in opensuse infrastructure, so i dont think compiling locally is "stupid" at all.

well i'm talking about that not all the people has YOUR/needed resources..  last time i compiled chromium it takes all the night   so a good solution it's that obs service.. 

yeah, of course are best a good environment...  but not all the people meet all the requeriments or have enought knowledge/time .. obs are for any novice as expert at same equals

i'm not fan of obs neither opensuse rmp related distro.. but i'm talking about simple and quick access.. not a complete signed gpg and those complicated things.. just for those thant only need the compilation and distribution in some place..

OBS provides easyle and agnostic environment for right dependences (where you can see if all are meet or fails for some one)

if i were going to compile ff at all, part of the reason would be limited trust in opensuse infrastructure, so i dont think compiling locally is "stupid" at all.

however, im aware that devuan has (or at least had) a build cluster. i would trust that over one controlled by opensuse. after all, they control it-- not opensuse. and if they screw up, theyre the ones accountable-- not opensuse.

HevyDevy wrote:

mckaygerhard wrote:

what's the problem? OBS works fine for build FF and/or palemoon.. i have my own packages.. for ascii of course .. but not without dbus and for puseshit i'm using apulse

Ive never heard of OBS until it was mentioned just now. Not going to sign up for it though, if i build something ill do it locally.

without offending you that it's bit stupid.. maybe you can build your package locally just at final stage.. and some other must use OBS to don't waste own resources. compiling FF or chromium browsers need huge amount of resources.. that OBS provides easyle and agnostic environment for right dependences (where you can see if all are meet or fails for some one)

You dont get it, im not going to build Firefox or Palemoon from source, i was just asking questions.

mckaygerhard wrote:

what's the problem? OBS works fine for build FF and/or palemoon.. i have my own packages.. for ascii of course .. but not without dbus and for puseshit i'm using apulse

Ive never heard of OBS until it was mentioned just now. Not going to sign up for it though, if i build something ill do it locally.

without offending you that it's bit stupid.. maybe you can build your package locally just at final stage.. and some other must use OBS to don't waste own resources. compiling FF or chromium browsers need huge amount of resources.. that OBS provides easyle and agnostic environment for right dependences (where you can see if all are meet or fails for some one)

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

HevyDevy wrote:

Looks like you would need to build firefox from source to be able to patch it, would that be right?

Yes, that's right. For Debian-derived systems it is possible to use the OBS to make it for you, accounts are free.

what's the problem? OBS works fine for build FF and/or palemoon.. i have my own packages.. for ascii of course .. but not without dbus and for puseshit i'm using apulse

Ive never heard of OBS until it was mentioned just now. Not going to sign up for it though, if i build something ill do it locally.

HevyDevy wrote:

Looks like you would need to build firefox from source to be able to patch it, would that be right?

Yes, that's right. For Debian-derived systems it is possible to use the OBS to make it for you, accounts are free.

what's the problem? OBS works fine for build FF and/or palemoon.. i have my own packages.. for ascii of course .. but not without dbus and for puseshit i'm using apulse

Looks like you would need to build firefox from source to be able to patch it, would that be right?

Yes, that's right. For Debian-derived systems it is possible to use the OBS to make it for you, accounts are free.