Presently having a look at Void XFCE Live - seems like a good alternative - time will tell.
I have bought a couple of thin clients recently; they have only 16GB disks in them - first I installed Fatdog64 on them, but soon replaced with my regular Devuan Live.
Also checking out derivatives - Crowz & Star - really liking the minimalism of them - might end up using one of them instead of Devuan Live......
]]>I use PCLinuxOS on my main PC, and have done so happily since early 2007.
It was late 2006 (December 8, 2006 to be exact) for me. I have read many of your posts before with much enjoyment and gratitude.
kjpetrie, welcome to the devuan galaxy.
Back on topic, for me, I only use devuan and pclinuxos. Scenarios for usage are laptop, desktop(s), home theatre pc, and three servers - home, vps, vpn.
]]>However, my 64-bit laptop has been broken for about a year, so I needed to reuse an old 32-bit Dell Inspiron 9400 I inherited from my brother. It dates from the days when desktops were built like tanks with clips to hold the lid shut but it's a high spec machine for its day with a massive 1920 x 1200 display and 2GB RAM, so I'd pay quite a lot to get something similar now. So rather than look for a new one I decided it would do for backup and portable device. It does need a new battery though, and I doubt they are made now. Still, it works if I can plug it in.
Anyway, I chose Devuan as it's still compiled for the architecture and I can see the two machines from each other. It works well on this old machine designed for Win XP! It lacks the desktop cube but I can live without that.
On my server I run FreeBSD for stability and security. Of course, that's not a distro since it's not even Linux, but it's a great OS for a server. I'd hate to think what hoops I'd have to jump through to get that working on a laptop. I know people do, but I haven't got time for the challenge.
I'm happy with Devuan and it's familiar enough on the front end for a migrant from PCLinuxOS to adapt to fairly easily. There are some terminal commands I'm used to using which aren't there by default, though I could doubtless install them if I really need them.
]]>Other than tinkering with old microsoft crap im using alpine linux on an encrypted usb for real life transactions.
]]>zapper wrote:andyprough wrote:No, I decided to start with glibc as it gave me the best chance of running with the most software. I'm going to try the musl version soon and see if Bedrock Linux with the Devuan Ceres strata will install on top of it.
I used to have interest in voidlinux myself, for gaming, but since I have stopped doing so, and Voidlinux switched back to OpenSSL, it has lost any purpose of me wanting to use it, for anything.
I had heard that too, zap, but I found that libressl is still available and there are instructions for installing it. I guess libressl just lost its default status to openssl is all that happened. Another thing that would be of interest to you is that unless you use certain web browsers or desktop environments, a base installation of Void seems to run without dbus.
I'll have to figure out how to find and remove all the non-free firmware it installs with and how to install Linux libre. Should be able to libretize it.
Void can work without dbus? I am surprised, I didn't know this... hmm.
Do you know if they plan to remove libressl in the future completely? Regardless, for me its Hyperbola or bust at this point.
]]>You can run glibc programs from a flatpak or chroot anyway:
]]>andyprough wrote:it's just cruising along at 250mb
Is that the musl libc version? I've recently installed that myself but it's at the bare console stage atm.
So I tried musl, with DWM as the only window manager it starts out at 89mb. Bedrock Linux and the Devuan Ceres strata does install. Pretty sweet!
]]>andyprough wrote:Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Is that the musl libc version? I've recently installed that myself but it's at the bare console stage atm.
No, I decided to start with glibc as it gave me the best chance of running with the most software. I'm going to try the musl version soon and see if Bedrock Linux with the Devuan Ceres strata will install on top of it.
I used to have interest in voidlinux myself, for gaming, but since I have stopped doing so, and Voidlinux switched back to OpenSSL, it has lost any purpose of me wanting to use it, for anything.
I had heard that too, zap, but I found that libressl is still available and there are instructions for installing it. I guess libressl just lost its default status to openssl is all that happened. Another thing that would be of interest to you is that unless you use certain web browsers or desktop environments, a base installation of Void seems to run without dbus.
I'll have to figure out how to find and remove all the non-free firmware it installs with and how to install Linux libre. Should be able to libretize it.
]]>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:andyprough wrote:it's just cruising along at 250mb
Is that the musl libc version? I've recently installed that myself but it's at the bare console stage atm.
No, I decided to start with glibc as it gave me the best chance of running with the most software. I'm going to try the musl version soon and see if Bedrock Linux with the Devuan Ceres strata will install on top of it.
I used to have interest in voidlinux myself, for gaming, but since I have stopped doing so, and Voidlinux switched back to OpenSSL, it has lost any purpose of me wanting to use it, for anything.
]]>andyprough wrote:it's just cruising along at 250mb
Is that the musl libc version? I've recently installed that myself but it's at the bare console stage atm.
No, I decided to start with glibc as it gave me the best chance of running with the most software. I'm going to try the musl version soon and see if Bedrock Linux with the Devuan Ceres strata will install on top of it.
]]>it's just cruising along at 250mb
Is that the musl libc version? I've recently installed that myself but it's at the bare console stage atm.
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