<![CDATA[Dev1 Galaxy Forum / The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2896 Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:51:34 +0000 FluxBB <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16587#p16587 Alright time for a fresh Gentoo install.

Although to be fair arch 'stable' is like unstable on backports so, although I do notice arch forums are full of help threads so it can't be all that bad.

]]> Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:51:34 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16587#p16587 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16557#p16557 smile

]]> Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:39:25 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16557#p16557 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16555#p16555 Panopticon wrote:
F_Sauce wrote:

Stay friendly folks!

Stay init free man! wink

Unfortunately init is just the tip of an iceberg.

]]> Mon, 17 Jun 2019 05:28:23 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16555#p16555 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16538#p16538 F_Sauce wrote:

Stay friendly folks!

I have nothing but love for Panopticon and I totally agree with their assessment.

@Nili: thank you but I can be a real asshole when I'm in a mood big_smile

Sorry for the OT, OP!

]]> Sun, 16 Jun 2019 20:07:52 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16538#p16538 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16520#p16520 F_Sauce wrote:

Stay friendly folks!

Stay init free man! wink

]]> Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:06:06 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16520#p16520 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16505#p16505 Stay friendly folks!

]]> Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:29:31 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16505#p16505 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16503#p16503 Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Panopticon wrote:

You are like an embeded virus

Thanks d00d, that's the nicest thing anybody's said to me in a while smile

No worries d00fus wink

]]> Sun, 16 Jun 2019 10:36:06 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16503#p16503 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16499#p16499 @Panopticon You do not know him enough or properly, so you speaks so.

]]> Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:17:24 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16499#p16499 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16496#p16496 Panopticon wrote:

You are like an embeded virus

Thanks d00d, that's the nicest thing anybody's said to me in a while smile

]]> Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:57:41 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16496#p16496 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16492#p16492 Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
tmartins wrote:

I'm reading in a few places that the systemd on Debian is really, really bad.

Do you have any links? Sounds like FUD to me...

tmartins wrote:

The package maintainers are leaving Debian!

So two maintainers have left then?

Debian have over 250 developers so I'm sure they'll manage smile

tmartins wrote:

People are saying that if you want a "stable" systemd-based system, you have to choose CentOS or Arch.

Which people?

Arch isn't stable at all, it changes all the time. It is surprisingly reliable though, as long as you install the LTS kernel — the non-LTS kernel breaks a lot (and certainly more often than systemd).

tmartins wrote:

Any thoughts?

Nice troll post, well done smile

Look out here is the systemd fanboy. You are like an embeded virus, wherever there is a systemd debate you ferret it out.

]]> Sat, 15 Jun 2019 15:23:56 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16492#p16492 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16478#p16478 Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So two maintainers have left then?

More than 2 Debian devs hang out with Devuan.  And no . . . I'm not going to list names.   wink

]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:44:13 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16478#p16478 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16477#p16477 tmartins wrote:

I'm reading in a few places that the systemd on Debian is really, really bad.

Do you have any links? Sounds like FUD to me...

tmartins wrote:

The package maintainers are leaving Debian!

So two maintainers have left then?

Debian have over 250 developers so I'm sure they'll manage smile

tmartins wrote:

People are saying that if you want a "stable" systemd-based system, you have to choose CentOS or Arch.

Which people?

Arch isn't stable at all, it changes all the time. It is surprisingly reliable though, as long as you install the LTS kernel — the non-LTS kernel breaks a lot (and certainly more often than systemd).

tmartins wrote:

Any thoughts?

Nice troll post, well done smile

]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:39:32 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16477#p16477 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16474#p16474 Or Debian will come to its senses by allowing init freedom at installation and requiring packages to support all init options.

]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:30:28 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16474#p16474 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16472#p16472 But then, Devuan will, sooner or later, become independent and stop forking Debian (like Ubuntu does often).

]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:09:29 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16472#p16472 <![CDATA[Re: The quality of systemd on Debian]]> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16471#p16471 tmartins wrote:

I'm wondering here how this bad situation will affect Devuan... Any thoughts?

Hopefully it will drive more users to Devuan, a system that has no systemd problems.

]]> Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:06:25 +0000 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16471#p16471