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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15543#p15543</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Buster should have the 4.19 kernel, same as Beowulf. (It&#039;s really the other way around.)&#160; Distrowatch is wrong.</p><p>But you don&#039;t need to use a debian-live iso. If you want to do a debootstrap install, I made this iso with the ascii-backports kernel (4.17 or 4.18) and devuan debootstrap is already installed.<br /><a href="https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/refracta-test-oblx-bpo-20180913_1952.iso" rel="nofollow">https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 3_1952.iso</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 17:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15537#p15537</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Have a look at the <a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/3.0/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/" rel="nofollow">mini.iso</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>That one isn&#039;t finding kernel modules also. and fails in other ways...sry, I didn&#039;t copy errors.<br />Off to find that ascii mini that worked for me and SAVE it this time..LoL<br /><img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />asta</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stanz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 05:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>@golinux: Thank you for the link. Just wondering why it is not advertised on the website.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Beowulf is apha, not beta or RC or even more. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>- What do you mean with &quot;It is advised to never use the Debian repos directly.&#160; Could cause much grief at some point.&quot;?<br />Should I not use their ISOs?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well, either you use Debian or Devuan. The different init systems wil cause a conflict. If you want systemd you are welcome to use Debian Buster. If you don&#039;t use Beowulf. Should work on your laptop. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>- Should I install mini.iso on a USB stick and boot from there?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Depends. You may write the iso to a CD/DVD and boot from there if you have the facilites to do so. Or you create a bootable stick in some&#160; suitable way and install from there. For instruction use the web. Whatever you can do and like. Use wired LAN for the installation.</p><p>BTW: the distrowatch article talks about ASCII, the stable version. </p><p>Beowulf is testing. Don&#039;t worry, looks like its working fine, got it working on my secondary PC, looks like it rock stable. </p><p>Rolf</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15533#p15533</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>From Distrowatch it appears that Buster/testing has a 4.9.82 kernel, which is not recent enough for a Ryzen 7 2700U. Am I wrong?</p><p>Reference: <a href="http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=devuan" rel="nofollow">http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=devuan</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Use backports.&#160; <span class="bbu"><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15024#p15024" rel="nofollow">Search for packages here</a></span>. Also consider hanging out on irc freenode #devuan.&#160; We just discussed the kernel thing over there.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15532#p15532</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>@golinux: Thank you for the link. Just wondering why it is not advertised on the website.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Because it is a testing iso not a stable release for general use.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>- What do you mean with &quot;It is advised to never use the Debian repos directly.&#160; Could cause much grief at some point.&quot;?<br />Should I not use their ISOs?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>All Debian packages are supplied by redirects through <span class="bbu"><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3" rel="nofollow">amprolla3</a></span> directly from the Debian repos.&#160; Anything that could break Devuan is filtered and <span class="bbu"><a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt" rel="nofollow">blacklisted</a></span>.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>- Should I install mini.iso on a USB stick and boot from there?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Sure!&#160; If you&#039;re installing an Xfce DE you can get the beowulf theme pieces <span class="bbu"><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15024#p15024" rel="nofollow">here</a></span> and install them manually.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>From Distrowatch it appears that Buster/testing has a 4.9.82 kernel, which is not recent enough for a Ryzen 7 2700U. Am I wrong?</p><p>Reference: <a href="http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=devuan" rel="nofollow">http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=devuan</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Pietro)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to all of you for your help. I will try to install it now, and if I will succeed I will write an answer to the question I put on StackOverflow:</p><p><a href="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/512136/how-to-install-devuan-debian-testing-unstable-without-starting-from-a-stable-rel" rel="nofollow">https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … stable-rel</a></p><p>Feel free to comment there, too.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Pietro)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@golinux: Thank you for the link. Just wondering why it is not advertised on the website. </p><p>- What do you mean with &quot;It is advised to never use the Debian repos directly.&#160; Could cause much grief at some point.&quot;?<br />Should I not use their ISOs?</p><p>- Should I install mini.iso on a USB stick and boot from there?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15528#p15528</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are a few threads in installation which deal with Beowulf install and where to find the isos. I have done a native Beowulf installation from one of the late isos and it works fine.</p><p>Rolf</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to install Devuan Ceres without starting from ASCII?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15521#p15521</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Have a look at the <span class="bbu"><a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/3.0/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/" rel="nofollow">mini.iso</a></span>.&#160; Might be a good starting point for you.&#160; linux-image-4.19.0-4 is in beowulf.</p><p>PS.&#160; It is advised to never use the Debian repos directly.&#160; Could cause much grief at some point.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pietro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>It is possible to install Devuan stable (ASCII) and then, editing `/etc/apt/sources.list`, upgrade to Ceres.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Have you tried install Beowulf (kernel 4.19) and then upgrade to Ceres?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PedroReina)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15517#p15517</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You could use a <a href="https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/buster_di_alpha1-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/" rel="nofollow">Debian buster &quot;live&quot; ISO image</a> to install Devuan ceres.</p><p>Load up the desktop then make sure debootstrap is removed:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt purge debootstrap</code></pre></div><p>Then download the Devuan debootstrap package from here:</p><p><a href="http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.114%2Bdevuan1_all.deb" rel="nofollow">http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/ … n1_all.deb</a></p><p>And install it with</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># dpkg -i debootstrap_1.0.114+devuan1_all.deb</code></pre></div><p>You can then follow this guide to install the Devuan system (skip the &quot;install debootstrap&quot; section, obviously):</p><p><a href="https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/apds03.html.en" rel="nofollow">https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch … 03.html.en</a></p><p>For the debootstrap command use this version:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># debootstrap ceres /mnt/debinst http://deb.devuan.org/devuan</code></pre></div><p>I used this method to install Devuan ascii from a Debian buster system, it should also work for ceres.</p><p>EDIT: a few shortcuts:</p><p>Rather than using MAKEDEV and mounting /proc you can instead install the <a href="https://packages.debian.org/buster/arch-install-scripts" rel="nofollow">arch-install-scripts</a> package and run</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># arch-chroot /mnt/debinst</code></pre></div><p>to enter the chroot, this will bind mount all of the API filesystems automagically.</p><p>It also includes the <em>genfstab</em> command, which can be run before entering the chroot, like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># genfstab -U /mnt/debinst &gt;&gt; /mnt/debinst/etc/fstab</code></pre></div><p>And instead of editing /etc/adjtime directly use this command:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># hwclock --systohc</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It is possible to install Devuan stable (ASCII) and then, editing `/etc/apt/sources.list`, upgrade to Ceres.</p><p>However on my laptop I have an AMD Ryzen 7 2700U processor, which does not support Linux kernels before 4.10, so I just cannot install the stable versions (kernel 4.9) to start from.</p><p>So far I have not been able to find a Ceres `ISO` anywhere. Would you be so kind to add it to your repository? It does not matter if it is a development version that keeps changing. Just update it once a month.</p><p>Without it I am stuck. I will never be able to install Devuan on my system, until you provide a stable version with a kernel newer that 4.10.</p><p>Thank you for your help.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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