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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13047#p13047</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI, someone posted a link to this thread in Debian User Forums/General Discussion.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13044#p13044</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cynwulf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Why thank you, but I have absolutely <span class="bbu">nothing</span> against headstick...&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>I was thinking to some DUF posts that I read awhile ago and it seemed like there was a serious feud between him and a few other members.&#160; (Last I had checked, gl posted an awesome PDF and I&#039;m reading through a few of the essays, rather than the post itself.&#160; [I probably won&#039;t finish the post, either, tbh.]) </p><p>Both of you do have an interesting post history, in your own contexts, at FDN.&#160; Your reputation is quite notorious.</p><p>That said, if there really is some kind of user-based fanclub for any user, please remove me from the mailing lists.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ogis1975 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Men and women. Girls and boys. Do not be to sensitive.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>+1 (and the fanclub is growing steadily)</p><p>To me it speaks volumes that someone will return to a thread over a year later and still having a problem with that thread and those posters, then go to another forum and post a tailor made screenshot, soliciting comments about how nasty the FDN forum is...&#160; well you should have seen it 7 + years ago.</p><p>To his credit, headstick has helped people out at that site, but it&#039;s a thankless task, burnout is inevitable...&#160; once burnout occurs, the FDN celebrity assholes gallery beckons...&#160; it&#039;s then up to the burnt out remains to resist the lure.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (cynwulf)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Men and women. Girls and boys. Do not be to sensitive. And what about this user (headstick). He helped many people. It is therefore a very valuable forum member. In addition, in his speeches, there is a great deal of humor.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ogis1975)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>siva wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>It depends on how you&#039;ve encountered him tbh.&#160; You guys have history in a way that a lot of users just don&#039;t.&#160; Doesn&#039;t make either of you horrible people imo.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Why thank you, but I have absolutely <span class="bbu">nothing</span> against headstick...&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Just highlighting his real persona - (also by his own recent admission on DUF).</p><p>I posted worse things than that at FDN back in the day.&#160; If you look specifically at the comment headstick responds to, his response is IMHO somewhat warranted.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13039#p13039</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cynwulf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Found some more &quot;nice, courteous and helpful...&quot; comments for the reading delight of the resident headstick fanclub :</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It depends on how you&#039;ve encountered him tbh.&#160; You guys have history in a way that a lot of users just don&#039;t.&#160; Doesn&#039;t make either of you horrible people imo.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MiyoLinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>...though it may not be obvious to those unfamiliar with him, I interpret his response as an attempt to add humor to the thread...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>+1</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, in drawing on what little that I personally know of Head_on_a_Stick, he is a very nice, courteous, and helpful individual. As such, though it may not be obvious to those unfamiliar with him, I interpret his response as an attempt to add humor to the thread.</p><p>...but that&#039;s me. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 06:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Returning the favor.&#160; &#160;LOL!</p><p><a href="http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;t=139176" rel="nofollow">http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;t=139176</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 05:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Sorry about that, but we didn&#039;t get to choose who left and who didn&#039;t. If we did have that power, we would have taken a few more. But it turns out that would not have been necessary - they&#039;re coming around eventually. First year, we got all people who didn&#039;t want systemd, but as time goes by, we keep getting more people who thought they did want systemd and changed their minds after they got it.</p><p>Welcome to devuan.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I had been using Debian since 1997. Three months ago, I installed Devuan ASCII, and haven&#039;t looked back. To me, Devuan feels and works exactly like what Debian used to feel like, and work like, before sytemd.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> (edited once, to correct an error)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ComputerBob)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13019#p13019</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dasein wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Reproducible problems are fixable.</p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The only thing I don't love about Devuan]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean. I have never encountered a more gratuitously user-hostile tech forum than Debian Forums. Even in the Beginners subforum, asking a simple question, even just trying to ask if something is a known issue, opens yourself up for all sorts of abuse, insults, mockery, etc. I don&#039;t understand how people get like that - seems it would be a miserable existence. Oh well.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ajhlinuxuser wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I want to embrace the non-systemd world of new or forked Linux distributions, but I still want to understand and be competent with the &quot;popular&quot; distributions which use it.</p><p>So sometimes I ask the people in these other communities for help.&#160; I am still quite new to the communities behind GNU/Linux, so I can&#039;t be 100% sure about this, but I have a pretty good hunch that the Devuan project has committed a fairly serious offense against the Debian community:</p><p><strong><em>It looks like Devuan took all the nice people from Debian!!!&#160; Every single one!!!</em></strong></p><p>So.&#160; Enough said.&#160; I love everything Devuan, but you really should have left a few nice guys behind when you split.</p><p>Attached, please find an example of the current state at Debian Forums.</p><p><a href="https://i.postimg.cc/htThdj0m/debian-forums-unbelievable-2018-11-29edit.png" rel="nofollow">https://i.postimg.cc/htThdj0m/debian-fo … 29edit.png</a></p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13013#p13013</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that, but we didn&#039;t get to choose who left and who didn&#039;t. If we did have that power, we would have taken a few more. But it turns out that would not have been necessary - they&#039;re coming around eventually. First year, we got all people who didn&#039;t want systemd, but as time goes by, we keep getting more people who thought they did want systemd and changed their minds after they got it.</p><p>Welcome to devuan.</p><p>P.S. Also sorry I didn&#039;t see your post a year ago. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever had two installs come out exactly the same with debian-installer.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I want to embrace the non-systemd world of new or forked Linux distributions, but I still want to understand and be competent with the &quot;popular&quot; distributions which use it.</p><p>So sometimes I ask the people in these other communities for help.&#160; I am still quite new to the communities behind GNU/Linux, so I can&#039;t be 100% sure about this, but I have a pretty good hunch that the Devuan project has committed a fairly serious offense against the Debian community:</p><p><strong><em>It looks like Devuan took all the nice people from Debian!!!&#160; Every single one!!!</em></strong></p><p>So.&#160; Enough said.&#160; I love everything Devuan, but you really should have left a few nice guys behind when you split.</p><p>Attached, please find an example of the current state at Debian Forums.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/htThdj0m/debian-forums-unbelievable-2018-11-29edit.png" alt="debian-forums-unbelievable-2018-11-29edit.png" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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