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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12564#p12564</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lvdave wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>. . . once I read here that snap on devuan was a no-go, I found that using the Clementine music program fixed that need . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Happy to hear that.&#160; All&#039;s well&#160; that ends well.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&#160; With FLOSS there are as many ways to solve a problem as there are users.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12563#p12563</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ChuangTzu wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>As you stated, its an easier method for you, there are other methods.&#160; What is the program anyway?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>For starters, Spotify.. However, once I read here that snap on devuan was a no-go, I found that using the Clementine music program fixed that need.. Since my<br />usage of Devuan is a desktop/laptop replacement for Windows, that for now, that resolves my snapd &quot;requirement&quot;... As long as there are alternatives to distros that are infested with systemd, such as Devuan (and others), I&#039;ll be a happy camper.. </p><p>Thanks<br />Dave</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12562#p12562</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lvdave wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>sgage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Just curious - why do you need to run snaps?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Several apps I need are more easily installed/used as a snap.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Take a deep breath lvdave . . .&#160; ( a moment of silent contemplation)</p><p>The operative phrase being &quot;more easily installed/used&quot;.&#160; &#160; These all-in-one apps are the fast food of software.&#160; You can either go for a quick burger or learn how to cook and really nourish yourself.&#160; &#160;That&#039;s a choice we all have to make.&#160; But don&#039;t start whining if you don&#039;t find a burger on the menu at a 5 star restaurant.&#160; And try to understand that the chefs might find it more than a tad insulting.&#160; &#160;This community has an identity and a way of doing and liking things.&#160; You might want to get to know us a bit better before you get all histrionic about not being able to order your favorite burger here.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12559#p12559</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ivdave, very simple indeed.&#160; snapd will not function without systemd, so if you are tied to the hip of snapd then systemd is your new obnoxious neighbor (red headed step child etc...).&#160; </p><p>As you stated, its an easier method for you, there are other methods.&#160; What is the program anyway?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ChuangTzu)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12551#p12551</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>sgage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Just curious - why do you need to run snaps?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I was thinking the same exact thing.</p><p>@lvdave . . . If you want that feature, use a systemd-based OS.&#160; &#160;It&#039;s that simple.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, it is NOT &quot;that simple&quot;.. The two systems I&#039;m evaluating Devuan to replace the current Ubuntu 14.04, when it goes EOL in April &#039;19 have<br />been tested with Debian Stretch, Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04, which all use the abortion (IMO) that is systemd. Under ALL of these OS, shutdown takes over a<br />minute from telling the OS to shutdown to the system powering off. Checking why this is, I find there are several &quot;stop jobs&quot; running that are preventing the<br />laptop (a Dell Latitude i5 with 8gb of ram) from shutting down in a timely manner. Whereas, with the same system running either Ubuntu 14.04 OR Devuan Ascii, the laptop shuts down in less than 10 seconds. Since I do not use hibernation, I often shutdown this laptop many times/day. The desktop in question does not have this problem as its rarely ever shutdown, only rebooted when needed. I&#039;ve used/supported Linux (and Windows) for 20 years as a sysadmin (now retired) and let me put it succinctly.. I DO NOT CARE FOR SYSTEMD.. period.. Which is why I&#039;m evaluating Devuan, like the folks who started the Devuan project, I don&#039;t care to use systemd... You may like it, but I DON&#039;T.... Since I really like Devuan (am currently running it on the laptop I&#039;m typing this on), I&#039;ll look for an alternative way to run the programs I need withOUT snapd, such as flatpak or appimages..</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lvdave)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12550#p12550</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sgage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Just curious - why do you need to run snaps?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Several apps I need are more easily installed/used as a snap.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lvdave)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12533#p12533</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>GNUser wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Flatpak and AppImages work fine in Devuan ASCII and Devuan Jessie . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Unfortunately.&#160; I find the concept behind these all-in-one dropins distasteful to say the least.&#160; It just doesn&#039;t feel right in Linux . . . &lt;/rant&gt;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I agree completely. There seems to be some sort of Windows/Apple envy among certain factions of the Linux world that wants stuff like this. And systemd, for that matter. Solving problems that don&#039;t really exist...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12530#p12530</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GNUser wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Flatpak and AppImages work fine in Devuan ASCII and Devuan Jessie . . .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Unfortunately.&#160; I find the concept behind these all-in-one dropins distasteful to say the least.&#160; It just doesn&#039;t feel right in Linux . . . &lt;/rant&gt;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12527#p12527</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Flatpak and AppImages work fine in Devuan ASCII and Devuan Jessie. There&#039;s also the (distro-agnostic) nix package manager, which can be used concurrently with native package manager.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12526#p12526</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sgage wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Just curious - why do you need to run snaps?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I was thinking the same exact thing.</p><p>@lvdave . . . If you want that feature, use a systemd-based OS.&#160; &#160;It&#039;s that simple.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12522#p12522</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just curious - why do you need to run snaps?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (sgage)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 01:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thats just lovely NOT!!... Am evaluating Devuan to move to when my current Ubuntu 14.04 becomes EOL next April and having the ability to run snaps is<br />a dealbreaker. Thanks for the info...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lvdave)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 01:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: snapd on Devuan Ascii?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12507#p12507</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>snapd is a banned package in Devuan because of systemd dependencies:<br /><a href="https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt" rel="nofollow">https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12506#p12506</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Subject says it all... I&#039;m running Devuan Ascii and understand it is a fork of Debian Stretch. I need to run snaps on this system, and I find that the Debian Stretch repo contains the snapd package to allow running of snap packages. Trying an &quot;apt install snapd&quot;, as shown for a Debian Stretch install, does NOT<br />work on Devuan Ascii, getting an &quot;E: Unable to locate package snapd&quot;... What gives?</p><p>Thanks<br />Dave</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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