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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Login problem - no mouse or keyboard]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11654#p11654</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>OP wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... pour over the release notes in detail tonight or tomorrow morn ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve checked the release notes.<br />In particular, the part that refers to &quot;Session management and policykit backends&quot;</p><p>I was able to verify that my installation complies with all the requirements ie: the &quot;<em>recommended default<br />combination of login manager (either slim or lightdm) and session management system</em>.&quot;</p><p>As to &quot;Starting X from a console (TTY)&quot;, although I <span class="bbu">was</span> being able to do it in the manner described ...&#160; (in spite of having <span class="bbc">consolekit</span> and not <span class="bbc">elogind</span> installed)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>OP wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If from the grub screen I hit &#039;e&#039; and add a 1 to the end of the command line and then, instead of logging in as root, I continue with the boot process ie: with ctrl-d I can do startx and get a perfectly working desktop.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>... it was with the <span class="bbc">Shutdown</span> and <span class="bbc">Restart</span> options being greyed out, probably the effect of not having <span class="bbc">elogind</span> installed.(?)</p><p>So I just in case, to comply with the Release Notes requisites, I installed <span class="bbc">SLiM</span> (which I had previously removed) and reinstalled <span class="bbc">consolekit</span>, in case it had become mucked up somehow.</p><p>The consequence was that the working desktop described above recovered the ability to <span class="bbc">Shutdown</span> and <span class="bbc">Restart</span> from the panel. =-)</p><p>Afterwards, looking closely at the screen output for a few reboot cycles made me aware of an issue regarding one of the services I had not been able to start.<br />The thread can be read <a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2342" rel="nofollow">here</a></p><p>It turns out that the service <span class="bbc">checkroot-bootclean.sh</span> was failing to execute properly and, not seeing anything else that could have been giving me trouble, I went for it.</p><p>Being a script that apparently runs at boot and then exits (?) does not seem like a service to me, it looks more like what it is: a start up script.<br />No wonder querying it with <span class="bbc">service --status-all | grep -i checkroot-</span> did not list it as <em>running</em> and me making a fuss over that.<br />Shouldn&#039;t there be a Script Starting Service with a list of scripts to check as needed? </p><p>But I digress ... <br />The fact was that it was being executed at boot and it was failing.</p><p>The graphical interface for <span class="bbc">Services</span> was of no help whatsoever so I looked for the script and edited the <span class="bbc">.sh</span> in the name. ie: *.sh -&gt; *.old and rebooted.</p><p>Sure enough: it <span class="bbu">was</span> the culprit. <br />Now I had recovered a fully working desktop.</p><p>Which meant that <em>apparently</em>, <span class="bbc">apt-get clean</span> and <span class="bbc">apt-get autoclean</span> were not at fault.<br />At least not <em>this</em> time.</p><p>But I was still getting boot time warnings about the bootclean script failing albeit with no apparent ill effects.</p><p>I tried to use <span class="bbc">chkconfig</span> to sort that out, but could not find it: it seems to have been dropped from ASCII (I clearly recall using it in Jesse).</p><p>Then I found out about <span class="bbc">update-rc.d</span>, which <span class="bbu">was</span> installed.<br />I thought using it would clean things up for me and that would be it.</p><p>So I did <span class="bbc">update-rc.d -f /etc/init.d/checkroot-bootclean.sh remove</span> but doing so left me without <span class="bbu">any</span> screen output.&#160; =^/</p><p>At that point this whole thing was getting old and I was needing my dose of espresso so I decided to take the easy way out.<br />But I&#039;m not too happy about that.</p><p>I went to my Timeshift folder and recovered all the rcX.d folders in <span class="bbc">/etc</span> from last saturday&#039;s snapshot and after renaming the existing ones as rcX.old, copied the backed up versions over to <span class="bbc">/etc</span> and <em>that was that</em>.&#160; </p><p>Things seem to be back to normal, whatever that is in this installation.</p><p>But I&#039;d like to ask a couple of questions, if I may:</p><p>1. did I use <span class="bbc">update-rc.d</span> correctly? <br />2. was it the proper approach to the problem at hand? ie: to clear out a script that I wanted to stop being run.<br />3. why can&#039;t the script be stopped with the graphical interface&#160; ie: <span class="bbc">Applications -&gt; System -&gt; Services = [service]</span></p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Login problem - no mouse or keyboard]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I suspect that autoclean might not take eudev and our customized backend options into its equation.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I see ...<br />And how was I to know that ...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Make sure you have the backend compatible with your DE installed.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I have a stock-out-of-the-box Devuan ASCII that began as Jessie.&#160; <br />Xfce and the rest came with it, nothing fancy save for the non-free Nvidia legacy 340 drivers.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And ALWAYS check what is going to be nuked BEFORE you hit enter.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Sure ...<br />But apt <span class="bbu">did not</span> give me/print ou any data or warnings related to what was being nuked that I could check or heed.<br />I can be reckless but (I think ...) I&#039;m a few years past being dumb.&#160; &#160;;^D!</p><p>In any case, if I trust <span class="bbc">apt-get update</span>, <span class="bbc">apt-get install</span>, <span class="bbc">apt-get upgrade</span> and <span class="bbc">apt-get dist-upgrade</span> to do things properly and not screw up anything, it stands to reason that I <span class="bbu">should</span> be able to trust <span class="bbc">apt-get clean</span>, <span class="bbc">apt-get autoclean</span> and <span class="bbc">apt-get autoremove</span> to <span class="bbu">also</span> do things properly.<br />&#160; <br />I&#039;ll call it the TTAG (Transitive Trust Apt-Get) theory, which unfortunately has not stood up to peer scrutiny. LOL!!! </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Read the <em><a href="https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt" rel="nofollow">release notes</a></em>.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ll pour over the release notes in detail tonight or tomorrow morn, but in the meantime I really need to recover from this unfortunate blunder.</p><p>Any suggestions as to how I can go about it?<br />Any additional info you need to be able to appraise the situation?</p><p>Thanks in advance,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Login problem - no mouse or keyboard]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11639#p11639</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that autoclean might not take eudev and our customized backend options into its equation.&#160; Make sure you have the backend compatible with your DE installed.&#160; And ALWAYS check what is going to be nuked BEFORE you hit enter.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Read the <em><a href="https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt" rel="nofollow">release notes</a></em>.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Login problem - no mouse or keyboard]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11638#p11638</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>After running <span class="bbc">apt-get clean &amp;&amp; apt-get autoclean</span> and rebooting I was left with a totally unresponsive mouse and keyboard.<br />The <span class="bbu">only</span> way out is a hard reboot.</p><p>The exact same situation repeats itself if I boot into recovery mode and try to do <span class="bbc">startx</span> as root: I get a desktop with a totally unresponsive mouse and keyboard and needing a hard reboot to get out.</p><p>But ...</p><p>If from the grub screen I hit &#039;e&#039; and add a <span class="bbc">1</span> to the end of the command line and then, instead of logging in as root, I continue with the boot process ie: with <span class="bbc">ctrl-d</span> I can do <span class="bbc">startx</span> and get a perfectly working desktop.</p><p>This same thing (yes, I never learn) happened to me with another distribution but only now realise that is is/may be related to running <span class="bbc">apt-get clean &amp;&amp; apt-get autoclean</span>.</p><p>Thinking it was a <span class="bbc">initscript</span> problem, I reinstalled the package but no cigar.<br />Same with <span class="bbc">xfce</span>. I even uninstalled SLiM with the same result.</p><p>Is it possible that running <span class="bbc">apt-get clean &amp;&amp; apt-get autoclean</span> has <em>cleaned</em> in excess?<br />Is there a log for apt?</p><p>Running apt-get check says everything is OK, so apparently nothing is broken. (?)</p><p>There is <span class="bbu">one noticeable difference</span> in this desktop: <span class="bbc">Shutdown</span> and <span class="bbc">Restart</span> options are greyed out.<br />Only Log Out is available as the only user in this installation.</p><p>So I have to do <span class="bbc">sudo shutdown</span> from a terminal but it asks me for the admin PW.</p><p>Any ideas as to what I may have mucked up now?&#160; :^,</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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