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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9596#p9596</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ivanovnegro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>mate-system-monitor is in the Ascii repos.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I checked and saw it there.&#160; It wasn&#039;t when I installed that VM several months ago.&#160; AntoFox must have updated some pkgs.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ivanovnegro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I like both Mate and Xfce but as of late slightly prefer Mate. Everybody has his/her preference but making compton work in Mate or in Xfce is just the same. The problem is using a preconfigured compton.conf and probably the default compositor at the same time.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The default Xfce compositor works fine here so I&#039;ve never experimented with other options.&#160; I did resort to using compiz to address deficiencies in gnome2 maybe 10 years ago.&#160; Really more trouble than it&#039;s worth.&#160; The rotating cube was kind of neat though.&#160; Choice is a good thing . . .</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9595#p9595</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>mate-system-monitor is in the Ascii repos. </p><p>I like both Mate and Xfce but as of late slightly prefer Mate. Everybody has his/her preference but making compton work in Mate or in Xfce is just the same. The problem is using a preconfigured compton.conf and probably the default compositor at the same time.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 15:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9580#p9580</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Mate startup applications is in menu system-prefererences-personal-startup applications.<br />Also I have mate-system-monitor in ascii. I wonder if mate-system-tools is in different package. mate-utils?<br />I&#039;m unfamiliar with their use. also, I don&#039;t know what menu is used in Miyo-ASCII(mate) so, for what it is worth.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 13:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9562#p9562</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Long before Mate, gnome2 got very long in the tooth for me.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So I&#039;m curious,&#160; what DE do you use now?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Xfce since wheezy.&#160; &#160;I actually tried Mate on wheezy too but it still had all the annoyances of gnome2 so that was the end of it.&#160; I do use some Mate apps - pluma, atril etc..&#160; Several of those aren&#039;t available for ascii - mate-system-monitor, mate-system-tools - which is a bit of a bummer.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9561#p9561</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Long before Mate, gnome2 got very long in the tooth for me.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>So I&#039;m curious,&#160; what DE do you use now?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9556#p9556</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Long before Mate, gnome2 got very long in the tooth for me.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again MiyoLinux and ivanovnegro. I&#039;ll be watching this for a day or so, and mark as solved if all holds ups.</p><p>[To be honest, Mate is starting to get long in the tooth for me.&#160; <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> ]</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9554#p9554</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Look at the compton.conf file...</p><p>There should be a line for fade-in...or fade-in-step</p><p>It&#039;s probably something like...</p><p>fade-in-step = 0.03 </p><p>...or something similar.</p><p>Edit it to a lower number (0.00 would be no fade in) and see if that helps.</p><p>Also, depending on which compton.conf I included in the Miyo you&#039;re using, there may be a line for no fading at all (opening or closing windows), if it&#039;s there, edit the line...</p><p>fading = true</p><p>to...</p><p>fading = false</p><p>There should be several options available for fading that you can play around with until you find what works best for you. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>EDITED TO ADD: I posted this after you found the line. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 23:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you MiyoLinux and ivanovnegro. It seems to be working now as it should.</p><p><strong>EDIT</strong><br />There is one weird thing. Now when opening a new window, instead of it immediately appearing, it kind of fades in instead. I think I can live that though.</p><p><strong>EDIT #2</strong><br />I found a line in compton.conf that read <span class="bbc">fading = true;</span>. I changed it to false and that seems to have taken care of the fade in.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9552#p9552</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK, let&#039;s do it this way, if you want. I know how to make Compiz working but I guess we prefer a more simple and minimal approach. It works here on Mate Devuan Ascii installed from backports but it should also work on Mate 1.16.</p><p>I would suggest you remove the compton config you made or have, will be easier for me. </p><p>Firstly go to the Mate Control Center, to Windows and disable the built-in compositor, that could also be what was interfering. </p><p>Then start compton from the terminal with OpenGL:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>compton -b --backend glx</code></pre></div><p>That&#039;s it. </p><p>Do you see the appended -b, that makes an application running from terminal even if you close that terminal, so you do not kill the process.</p><p>Now take that command from above and put it into your autostart. Open again the control center and go to start programs and add it there. <br />It should look like this:</p><p><a href="https://postimg.cc/image/rgdj3bacz/" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://s5.postimg.cc/rgdj3bacz/compton.png" alt="compton.png" /></span></a></p><p>Report back.<br /><strong><br />Edit:</strong> One more thing. If compton was or is already running, kill it like mentioned, <span class="bbc">killall compton</span>, before proceeding with my solution. </p><p>It is not a driver problem btw, at least not really, it is a vsync issue on Intel cards that is not present if you use a compositor that uses OpenGL by default like Mutter, Muffin, KWin or Compiz. Xfce has the same problem. Mate 1.20 fixed that finally. </p><p>Here a nice read from the compton dev:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/chjj/compton/wiki/vsync-guide" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/chjj/compton/wiki/vsync-guide</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ivanovnegro)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 22:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hooray!</p><p>Yes, running things like compton from the terminal is done basically to test to see how it works. Once you close the terminal, you effectively kill whatever you were running.</p><p>As I&#039;m unfamiliar with Mate, I can only assume there&#039;s a way to add items to autostart as golinux said. Perhaps someone more familiar with Mate can intercede here. All that I can tell you is that if you find where to add it, the command should simply be <span class="bbc">compton</span>...unless Mate is different than what I&#039;m used to.</p><p>I&#039;m glad that worked, and I do hope you can get it added to autostart soon. Wish I still had my Mate version to figure it out for you. I&#039;m so sorry.</p><p>EDITED TO ADD: Until the autostart situation is figured out, and if Mate has a &quot;Run command&quot; (or something similar), you can use that to run compton too. Same thing...just type <span class="bbc">compton</span> in the Run command, and compton will continue running until you log out, reboot, etc...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9549#p9549</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#039;t mate have a startup menu in settings where you can add whatever you want?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Made the change and ran <span class="bbc">killall compton</span>. Got message that compton wasn&#039;t running. So I then ran <span class="bbc">compton</span>. Seems better so far.</p><p>Question: Why wasn&#039;t compton already running? Does that mean some other compositor was running? How can I check? And if I close the terminal, it says that will kill compton. How do I get compton running from boot?</p><p><strong>EDIT</strong><br />Closed the terminal and obvious screen tearing is back.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9546#p9546</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, try that change to see if it helps. After changing it, make sure to run</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>killall compton</code></pre></div><p>...if compton is already running. Then run...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>compton</code></pre></div><p>The compton.conf file that I supply is pretty basic. It may or may not work well on some machines. I have one machine that I have to use a completely different compton.conf file on.</p><p>Ron, I&#039;ve never used Compiz, so I can&#039;t be of any assistance as to how to use it.</p><p>If ivanovnegro is willing to help as he indicated (thank you ivanovnegro), that may be your best route since I have such limited experience with Mate. I didn&#039;t even use my miyo-mate long enough to know there&#039;s a built-in compositor. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: How to update drivers in Devuan (Miyo)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9542#p9542</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><strong>MiyoLinux wrote:</strong><br />In looking at the compton.conf file, what does it show for &quot;backend&quot;... glx or xrender?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Here&#039;s what it reads:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>backend = &quot;xrender&quot;;
#backend = &quot;glx&quot;;</code></pre></div><p>So I take it that I should change it to this . . .?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>#backend = &quot;xrender&quot;;
backend = &quot;glx&quot;;</code></pre></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><strong>MiyoLinux wrote:</strong><br />Then again, seems as though my memory recalls that Mate works best with Compiz for compositing...which I&#039;m not sure is available in Devuan.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>It is available in Synaptic. If I need to download it, how do use it in place of the others?</p><p>FTR, I don&#039;t recall having this issue in Jessie. But it could have been that I just missed it then, but I don&#039;t think so.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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