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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8771#p8771</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ron wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><strong>MiyoLinux wrote:</strong><br />Then I&#039;d recommend putting the # back on the backports repo.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I can&#039;t remember if I put them back. Should it look like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
#deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>or just this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>Another question, if I disable the backports then won&#039;t I <strong>not</strong> be offered an update on the new kernel when one is released?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hi Ron! You can just leave the &quot;deb&quot; line uncommented (without the #). Unless you&#039;re planning on building something from source, you can put the # in front of the &quot;deb-src&quot; repos.</p><p>Sometimes I forget and give advice about my personal preferences. I never use backports myself, so I always leave them commented out. </p><p>As I said, unless you plan to build something from source, this is my recommendation for how it should look...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
#deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>If you plan to build from source, then leave it as...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>Hope that helps!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 00:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8770#p8770</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The first option disables backports.&#160; I have always put a space after the #&#160; but don&#039;t know whether that&#039;s necessary.&#160; &#160;The second example enables them.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 00:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8767#p8767</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p><strong>MiyoLinux wrote:</strong><br />Then I&#039;d recommend putting the # back on the backports repo.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I can&#039;t remember if I put them back. Should it look like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
#deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>or just this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># jessie-backports
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main</code></pre></div><p>Another question, if I disable the backports then won&#039;t I <strong>not</strong> be offered an update on the new kernel when one is released?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8767#p8767</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8732#p8732</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s probably the reptile overlords updating the reality simulator again.&#160; Not your fault.</p><p>The CVE tracker has outlined the vulnerable and patched versions for a few months, and it looks like it hasn&#039;t changed.<br /><a href="https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754" rel="nofollow">https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … -2017-5754</a></p><p>The only claims for invulnerability I&#039;ve heard are hardware-level exceptions.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (siva)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8725#p8725</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>siva wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I wasn&#039;t offended lol. </p><p>I&#039;m wondering where you found that statement from Debian.&#160; It is my understanding that jessie-security solved this issue with a patched kernel, according to the CVE tracker.&#160; Would you mind sharing?</p><p>Again, however, all i386/i686 kernels are still vulnerable, and the kpti patch developers have no intent to fix them in the near future.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I shared it in the link that I provided; however, that link no longer says what it said when I first posted it. The caveat from the link is...</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>This article will be updated periodically with new information as it becomes available, until the issues have been resolved.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>In looking at the article today, it no longer says what I said that it said yesterday. Strange.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 23:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8720#p8720</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#039;t offended lol. </p><p>I&#039;m wondering where you found that statement from Debian.&#160; It is my understanding that jessie-security solved this issue with a patched kernel, according to the CVE tracker.&#160; Would you mind sharing?</p><p>Again, however, all i386/i686 kernels are still vulnerable, and the kpti patch developers have no intent to fix them in the near future.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (siva)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 22:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8717#p8717</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>siva wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>MiyoLinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>To my knowledge, there have been no patches for meltdown and spectre in kernel 3.16, because it&#039;s believed that 3.16 isn&#039;t affected...<br /><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSecurity/SpectreMeltdown" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSecurity/SpectreMeltdown</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Are you joking?</p><p>Also, processor architecture matters just as much as kernel version.&#160; Not only will i386 probably never be patched, but anything before 4.14.14 (on amd64) is just a backport, criticized for nebulous integrity.<br /><a href="http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=135775" rel="nofollow">http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=135775</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Sorry siva...I wasn&#039;t ignoring your post. I just saw it now for the first time...not sure how I missed it yesterday.</p><p>No, I wasn&#039;t joking. In trying not to muddy the waters, I was simply giving the &quot;official&quot; reason as to why 3.16 won&#039;t be patched as stated by Debian (in the link I provided)...since Devuan&#039;s kernel comes from Debian.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8685#p8685</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>HOORAY to the one and only MIYO!!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Well...I&#039;m not one to brag or anything, but I am pretty awesome and deserve all of the accolades and prominence that I&#039;m given...&#039;n stuff.</p><p>LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 00:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8684#p8684</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>HOORAY to the one and only MIYO!!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<h5>HOORAY!!!</h5><p> <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Miyo] Kernel questions]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8674#p8674</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks MiyoLinux. That worked!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear...yes, I forgot that you will need to install the linux-base from backports too. I&#039;m sorry. Try this from your terminal...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-base linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.6-amd64</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I successfully added the backports, but when I mark the kernel for installation I get this error message:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.6-amd64:
  Depends: linux-base (&gt;=4.3~) but 3.5 is to be installed</code></pre></div><p>If I have the backport enabled, why am I not being offered an updated linux-base version?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Ron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8663#p8663</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>Then I&#039;d recommend putting the # back on the backports repo.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You can also specify backported packages with the &quot;-t [repo]&quot; option (eg, &quot;-t jessie-backports&quot;).&#160; Then you can keep the bpo repo uncommented and use only when needed.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (siva)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ron, I&#039;m on my phone, so I can&#039;t check...but I believe I included the backports repo already but have it commented out. To check, open your terminal and issue this command...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list</code></pre></div><p>When the file opens, look at the bottom for the jessie-backports repo. If it&#039;s there, remove the # from in front of it. Then save and close the file.</p><p>Next, run this command in the terminal...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo apt-get update</code></pre></div><p>Don&#039;t run an upgrade...close the terminal.</p><p>Now open Synaptic and search for...</p><p>linux image</p><p>Find the newer kernel and install it.</p><p>Then I&#039;d recommend putting the # back on the backports repo.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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