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Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:28:56 +0000

golinux not GoLinux

As for everything else . . . I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (fungus) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:33:10 +0000

I like how I am clueless but you skipped through the separation of list and forum, of which I am clearly pointing out you are not part of.
I am not even projecting some judgment, I am merely observing this separation.

What is it that you want to write in capitals and you don't? That I am irritating you for no reason or that you don't want to explain what I am pointing out?

The messenger can go away, the message AND ITS CONTENT is still there.

You can take developers out of Debian but you can't get the Debian out of developers, I think!
What ever that means to anyone trying to decode it. It seems you are reading something different and to which I admit to be clueless.

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 17:16:51 +0000

fungus wrote:

I don't know whether GoLinux is an actual developer or does everything else, like running this forum, and tolerating my big mouth.

Just what is an 'actual developer' and what is 'everything else'? Are you really that clueless what it takes to do what Devuan is trying to do? And please golinux - all lower case . . .

As to amprolla3 and the mirrors . . . as fsmithred noted, how those mirrors will be integrated into Devuan's delivery system is still in process.

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:07:41 +0000

Right. All the mirrors are mirroring packages.devuan.org, which is the original amprolla.
For now, amprolla3 is only on pkgmaster.devuan.org. I think there are a few more details to be worked out before all the mirrors use the amprolla3 repo.

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (fungus) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:54:57 +0000

No, it is something that has been tested for more than two months and except for one rare occassion, that was overlooked and affected two people, everything runs fine. It just so happens that all the important technical discussion takes part on the list and rarely do we common mortals have the privilege of being adequately advised. So the forum is a true users' community, while the list is a true developers' community.

Like the song says "you got to keep'em separated".

The refracta, miyo, vuudo, developers have been very active in this forum. I don't know whether GoLinux is an actual developer or does everything else, like running this forum, and tolerating my big mouth.

My article I think is more informative on the issue than anything I found in the wiki. https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/151/

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (Geoff 42) — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 10:46:38 +0000

I noticed the message on DNG about the mirrors getting organised

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … ed.en.html

I wondered whether these mirrors are being supplied via Amprolla3 yet, or whether that is a work in progress?

Geoff

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (Geoff 42) — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:37:58 +0000

Well spotted! I have checked :-

$ dpkg -l apt
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
+++-==============-============-============-=================================
ii  apt            1.0.9.8.4    amd64        commandline package manager

So it is nothing to worry about and will be fixed in time. Thank you.

Geoff

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:40:14 +0000

Here's a bug report. I guess you can ignore the warning.
https://lists.debian.org/deity/2015/10/msg00085.html

Check your version of apt. It's supposed to be fixed in 1.1. Jessie has 1.0.9 and ascii should have 1.4.

dpkg -l apt

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (Geoff 42) — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:11:04 +0000

Thank you, I have now commented out those entries with /devuan, leaving only those with /merged.

apt-get update

now runs with no warnings

apt-get dist-upgrade

then runs, and in this case wants to upgrade firefox. It does this ok, but then produces the warning :-

Setting up firefox-esr (52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1) ...
Setting up iceweasel (52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1) ...
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/iceweasel_52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1_all.deb is not what the server reported 121762 15522

The upgrade came from jessie-security/main.

Geoff

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (fsmithred) — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:31:46 +0000

Looking under /devuan, there doesn't seem to be anything in jessie-proposed-security or jessie-proposed-backports. And there's almost nothing in jessie-proposed-updates - I think it's just an old version of desktop-base. I think it makes sense to use only the /merged sources unless you know there's a particular package in the /devuan sources that you need. (like you're testing a new build for a packager.)

Re: Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (Geoff 42) — Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:49:09 +0000

As I installed emacs, using synaptic, I managed to capture the following warnings :-

Setting up emacs (46.1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u10) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47) ...
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/imagemagick-common_8%3a6.8.9.9-5+deb8u10_all.deb is not what the server reported 153774 80602
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libgomp1_4.9.2-10_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 37784 13996
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libfftw3-double3_3.3.4-2_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 721784 710538
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/liblqr-1-0_0.4.2-2_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 24630 13996
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libmagickwand-6.q16-2_8%3a6.8.9.9-5+deb8u10_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 408584 380259
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/emacs24-bin-common_24.4+1-5+deb8u1_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 251498 216715
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libotf0_0.9.13-2_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 52912 42956
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/m17n-db_1.6.5-1_all.deb is not what the server reported 1308718 1301560
W: Size of file /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/libm17n-0_1.6.4-3_amd64.deb is not what the server reported 247286 213819

I see that it is the size rather than the checksum that it is complaining about.

Geoff

Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie

dummy@example.com (Geoff 42) — Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:34:11 +0000

Having updated my ASCII laptop to use the Amprolla3 powered repositories

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=6081#p6081

I wanted to similarly update my Jessie desktop. The first step was to update a jessie VM running under Xen, installed as per :-

https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/How_to … 0,_Xen_4.4
After I had

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoremove
apt-get install apt-transport-https

I then commented out the original sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and added in the lines containing "jessie" from fungus' post

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=5794#p5794

i.e.

deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ jessie-proposed main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ jessie-proposed-backports main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ jessie-proposed-security main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main contrib non-free
deb https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free

apt-get update

then largely proceeded normally, but at the end it produced the following warning :-

Fetched 11.9 MB in 5s (2025 kB/s)    
W: Failed to fetch https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie-proposed-backports/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

apt-get dist-upgrade

also was largely normal apart from a load of warnings which I am unable to recover but were about several of the downloaded deb files did not match the listed checksums. The updated packages, such as firefox, seem to work as expected.
Looking in /var/log, there are no warnings in dpkg.log and in /var/log/apt there are no warnings in term.log or history.log.

Following the URLs https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … backports/ and having a look around, there did not appear to be anything to do with main/binary-amd64/Packages, whereas in the jessie directory I did find an entry like that.

Is jessie-proposed-backports ready to be used or have I done something wrong?

Geoff