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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan is a purpy beast]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>@miroR . . .<br />...<br />The FiraSans font was dropped last year.&#160; I never liked it because it was &#039;unreliable&#039; and the spacing was strange.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I looked at it, and reported it (whichever fonts that those were --days now since--) as undecryptable (I would --if I had time any time soon-- be willing to place it openly for analysis in public; remembering back: those fonts were nominally gzip, but weren&#039;t gunzip&#039;able... )</p><p>&quot;I would --if I had time...&quot; I wrote, because I&#039;m a little downcast from the recent thread on The Devuan DNG Mailing List, were I may have&#160; digressed on two pages too many, but there are points, related to Devuan that remain to be asked/said, related, related. Yes, related to Devuan, and do have some points in there... </p><p>A little downcast, and worked less, and am late with things. So... I don&#039;t have time soon for that...</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>But I do believe that the logo was created by reorienting FiraSans characters.&#160; The fonts currently used on the site are OpenSans and SourceCodePro. You can see the source here.</p><p><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/tree/beta.devuan.org/source/ui/css/fonts" rel="nofollow">https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/d … /css/fonts</a></p><p>*edit* As to fonts on this forum . . . they could probably use some revision.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I did look up the sources... But I was talking about fonts, from Google (apparently FiraSans was from Google, and isn&#039;t linked anymore from Dev1Galaxy, IIU you C), nominally gzip&#039;ed but which can not be gunzip&#039;ed from the network trace, or dump whichever word you like better.</p><p>The fact is that browsing Dev1Galaxy my Palemoon linked to Google, and downloaded fonts these few days ago... Not last year.</p><p>While I surely don&#039;t like anything Google, I don&#039;t impose my dislike to anybody. But it must be decryptable, anything that I get from Google, because Google is a known intruder into people&#039;s machine. It&#039;s proven to be such. (If citation is missing, allow time.)</p><p>There is the caveat to the above report of mine, that I&#039;m not an expert, and lots of things are missing in my understanding.</p><p>The dump could have errors itself (but not in three-four or more places, where I found gzip&#039;d but not gunzip&#039;able fonts... )...</p><p>It could be some finesse in the way those are gzip&#039;ed... And I would need to ask, say people on Wireshark, about it...</p><p>But for now, due to lack of time, I suggest to leave this matter for now.</p><p>If, the next time I analyze traffic from Dev1Galaxy, I find things undecryptable that should be decryptable, I&#039;ll upload them, likely to:<br /><a href="https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/" rel="nofollow">https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cap/</a><br />under a new dir with the timestamp of the day, and link to it from here.</p><p>In this topic. That may happen weeks, or months from now!</p><p>What I like is the openness when we face potential problems, and I congratulate you for that!</p><p>True openness in the face of problems means that&#160; Devuan is living up to the declared standards.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@miroR . . . just a quick note as it is very late.</p><p>The FiraSans font was dropped last year.&#160; I never liked it because it was &#039;unreliable&#039; and the spacing was strange.&#160; But I do believe that the logo was created by reorienting FiraSans characters.&#160; The fonts currently used on the site are OpenSans and SourceCodePro. You can see the source here.</p><p><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/tree/beta.devuan.org/source/ui/css/fonts" rel="nofollow">https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/d … /css/fonts</a></p><p>*edit* As to fonts on this forum . . . they could probably use some revision.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>@miroR . . . You make me <strong><span style="color: #DF809C">blush</span></strong>.&#160; But please remember that our dear friend hellekin was also involved.&#160; He and I spent hours upon hours creating the look and feel of Devuan.&#160; We were a formidable team!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I recall the name <span style="color: brown">hellekin</span> was also much heard in the DNG ML and other of our places at the time of logo creation and Devuan look and feel creation, which I followed only by skim-reading about the events. <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> But the result is, yes, the fruit of that discussion, and it is pleasing to the eye and makes members proud. Keep up the good work.</p><p>And always open and transparent, like Rick Moen and me suggested these days on the Devuan DNG ML:</p><p><a href="https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170713.203321.8592ca14.en.html" rel="nofollow">https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 14.en.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rick Moen wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>So, I offer that as a creative solution to the problem of being<br />effective as a listadmin, getting the administrative noise away from the<br />affected main discussion forums, and at the same time achieving extreme<br />transparency and accountability to the subscribers. And I can also say<br />that restraint on my part, carefully doing absolutely minimal responses<br />to problems, has been good policy.</p></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170713.191505.6a4421ed.en.html" rel="nofollow">https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … ed.en.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>I myself wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>...And (unless there are, but those are exceptions and vanity hurt is not such,<br />reasons to the contrary), that&#039;s not openness that is promised in the Devuan<br />constitution-in-the-making:<br /><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/DevuanConstitution" rel="nofollow">https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-pr … nstitution</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170713.143714.4de84a7c.en.html" rel="nofollow">https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 7c.en.html</a></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>I myself wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I even like the fonts too, but, golinux, do you know that they&#039;re allegedly (by<br />Google, that&#039;s why I said &quot;even&quot;; if they were true FOSS opensource, which<br />Google never has been nor is expected to be, I would just love them) gzip&#039;d,<br />but..</p><p>[Do you know] the Google fonts used on Dev1Galaxy are [allegedly gzip&#039;d], but<br />can not be really extracted with gunzip. From traffic dump, I&#039;m saying... What<br />Google puts in there can be anything, even some aid in there witchcraft-like<br />methods and tools to intrude into people&#039;s machine <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> .</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Long term, this needs to be solved... I could try and find time to demonstrate that is was the case when I analyzed the traces<br />( I always dump network from the moment I go online to the moment I disconnect, with my <a href="https://github.com/miroR/uncenz" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/miroR/uncenz</a> (primitive) program. )...<br />[I could try and find time to demonstrate that is was the case], which is not a little time, but a major effort for a non-expert... and I&#039;m not sure how soon, but if it&#039;s needed...<br />Openness and transparency will be very truthful then, in this case, in Devuan.<br />Longer term this needs to be solved... No one says right away, but it has, kind of, a medium urgency at least, well, in my eyes...</p><p>If we should discuss this, maybe you should split this part away, because it is not related to the topic anymore... <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /><br />( I am a little tired from successful day of tweaking Devuan yesterday; God I got <span style="color: green">total encryption</span> working on a 15 yrs old system, and other things... I&#039;m running a perfectly, well few glitches, but few left, fine working Devuan booting <span style="color: green">in OpenRC</span>, and I&#039;m installing <span style="color: green">in Air-Gapped</span> since some 20 days age, and using cloned, dispensable system for online, all of this stuff is what I long had dreamed of... And it came true!. But, pls allow for a little slowliness, if I would need... )</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 06:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>miroR wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Purple/violet is fine. Devuan is a <span style="color: purple">purple</span> beast... Well, to me. Or it&#039;s more like <span style="color: purple">purpy</span>, but one would have to ask the chief Devuan web/logo/other-stuff designer, one <span style="color: brown">golinux</span> for details <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>@miroR . . . You make me <strong><span style="color: #DF809C">blush</span></strong>.&#160; But please remember that our dear friend hellekin was also involved.&#160; He and I spent hours upon hours creating the look and feel of Devuan.&#160; We were a formidable team!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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