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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Future of the debian installer for devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3221#p3221</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts on this, in no particular order...</p><p>I don&#039;t know what the future holds for live-build. Someone who follows the debian-live mailing list would have a better idea. There&#039;s also the open-infrastructure project, which is run by Daniel Baumann. Packages are in ascii, and when I looked at it about a year ago, only one of the packages needed to have its dependencies changed (remove systemd dep) to install in devuan. It is a continuation of live-build under a different name and with the same commands. </p><p>Note that live-boot and live-config, which are part of the original debian-live project, are needed for refracta tools and for live-sdk to make a bootable live-iso. They better not go away any time soon.</p><p>libdevuansdk and live-sdk are being developed in devuan and are already in use for building the desktop-live isos and the embedded-device images.</p><p>It&#039;s not practical to remove or replace the debian installer. It&#039;s capable of doing too many things to get rid of it. Personally, I hate it, but sometimes it&#039;s the best tool for the job.</p><p>The refracta tools will continue to be included in the live isos. If development stops on those, someone else could pick it up. It&#039;s a really simple procedure. For the installer - create partition, rsync copy the live system to the partition, add the bootloader. And for the record, I&#039;m not planning to stop maintaining those tools, because I intend to continue using them even if nobody else wants to.</p><p>The plan for the live isos is to include the debian/devuan installer. Ozi is working on that, and I think it will be included whenever we get around to making a point release of jessie.</p><p>Sorry I can&#039;t help with your install problem. I think it would be good if it got solved, and I hope that live-build or its successor will continue to work in devuan. Diversity is a good thing for the ecosystem.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Future of the debian installer for devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3218#p3218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Personally think the refracta installer similar to the LinuxBBQ one is better.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (darry1966)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Future of the debian installer for devuan]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3217#p3217</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>This is a semi repost from DIY, bear with me, <span style="color: green">i&#039;m still learning about the carry overs from debian, and how devuan does things.</span></strong><br />Some of you know I was testing out live-build with creating devuan images. It works great aside from the debian installer being the problem; ignoring the fact that the debian installer works just fine on the netinstall images. Shortly after installing grub, I get this error.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/MF5aNXd.jpg" alt="MF5aNXd.jpg" /></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Are the refracta tools going to be the de-facto official devuan system building tools with the debian installer being considered deprecated?</span> If i&#039;m switching my distribution&#039;s base, i prefer to use the tools used that are officially supported for the new distribution base; since those are the tools that are supported for the long term and will perform better than the short term use tools that will eventually no longer be supported.</strong></p><p><strong>An answer to my devuan debian installer mystery would be nice except...<span style="color: red">an answer doesn&#039;t matter if the debian installer isn&#039;t going to be in use much longer for devuan.</span></strong></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (shamil)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 04:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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