The troubling thing to me, sgage, is how so many seemingly independent distros agreed to systemd. I understand the based-on distros with few devs. But the rest of them agreeing in such a short period of time? Seemed like dominos. I don't understand what would draw them away from their independence to integrate (in hindsight) a half-baked init system.
I also re aquainted myself with OpenBSD, just in case.
DragonflyBSD seemed right for me... just in case.
]]>. . . they said there was to be no other init system, but they saw people leaving, & so capitulated, to 'allow' other init systems . . .
I predict that other init systems won't be 'allowed' for much longer . . .
]]>After the initial Debian 'dictatorship' decided that systemd was going to be 'the Debian way', I quickly looked around for alternatives, as they said there was to be no other init system, but they saw people leaving, & so capitulated, to 'allow' other init systems, but that dreaded systemd was so integrated, it was not easy to get a Debian install without the 'virus', so that is why I followed Devuan, but like you, waited for an installable ISO.
I also re aquainted myself with OpenBSD, just in case.
]]>Seeing how systemd came to be included in Debian, and in almost every popular and based-on distro so quickly, was sad to watch. The upgrade to Jessie didn't affect me at first as my desktop is Fluxbox/Rox-filer with a console login. However, that soon changed. For example, DE-independent transmission-gtk needed about 15MB to install on my setup in Wheezy. A Jessie update needed about 100MB, adding GTK3, Adwaita icons, gconf2, glib-networking, desktop-schemas and more. Didn't like Gnome pushing its way into the OS, even without systemd as init.
I tried a number of distros from the list on Without Systemd as I followed Devuan's development. I liked several, but whether familiarity or wanting to see Devuan do well, I waited for the iso. Tried the iso in VBox for a while, then installed the base OS to the HD last summer. It's been my default since then and haven't had a single problem.
FWIW, I don't often post but I do like to read. I discovered when composing a post with a good explanation of the problem, the relevant log output and search results I've tried, proofreading before posting often suggests stuff I hadn't yet thought of or a different direction to take. It usually helps me fix the problem.
With Debian as my default since Etch, I switched to Devuan for the same reason it was developed. I'm grateful, and to those who created and maintain it, Thank You!
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