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			<title><![CDATA[missing games in cinnamon games menu]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7932&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>install <span class="bbc">bsdgames</span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 04:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Weird usb partitioning issues]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7931&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, in general it depends on the tool you used to create partitions. Gparted has a flaw where it can&#039;t always read a USB properly, but it&#039;s not altogther Gparted&#039;s fault all the time. There are a number of tools to create a liveUSB, and a lot will install your iso, but they take up the entire stick with one iso-9660 partition. Unless the tool that you used to create any new partitions pre-emptively wiped the free space before it created your new partitions, it will frequently leave a small signature of 5 bytes that still identifies it (at least to Gparted) as one big partition.</p><p>The gnome-disk-utility should &quot;see&quot; your other partitions correctly, but even if you make new ones with it Gparted still won&#039;t &quot;see&quot; them even if GDU and your file-manager do, because GDU doesn&#039;t pre-emptively wipe either. But it will see extra partitions even if Gparted won&#039;t.</p><p>Both gnome-related, so good luck with getting them to admit it&#039;s an issue or fix it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 23:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Not devuan, but need a windows install disk, now synaptic problem]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7914&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve used WoeUSB once to successfully make a bootable Win7 USB under MX Linux. The program spewed a fat error at the very end of the ISO writing process, but everything actually turned out fine. It booted and installed without any problem.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Calamity)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Installing VPN Software]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7927&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thread on this forum in Other Issues...<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7099" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7099</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mweishaar)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Devuan 6 excalibur installer fails to load on hyper-v]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7911&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ralph.</p><p>Unfortunately it appears to hang after the last log line &quot;hv_vmbus: unregistering driver hv_utils&quot; regardless of whether I add extra boot command line parameters.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (wwuck)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 03:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[CUPS 3.0 and printer drivers]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7908&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www-druckerchannel-de.translate.goog/artikel.php?ID=5421&amp;t=cve_2026_34980_und_34990&amp;_x_tr_sl=de&amp;_x_tr_tl=en&amp;_x_tr_hl=it&amp;_x_tr_pto=wapp" rel="nofollow">https://www-druckerchannel-de.translate … r_pto=wapp</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (kapqa)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Struggle with making Devuan + LUKS setup boot on Orange Pi 3B v1.1]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7901&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem could be the .config file that the bootloader was compiled with,options that are required for luks support could be unchecked. I will mark this as solved if I compile,flash bootloader and it boots.</p><p>EDIT: failure;</p><p>I compiled TF-A from <a href="https://github.com/TrustedFirmware-A/trusted-firmware-a" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/TrustedFirmware-A/trusted-firmware-a</a> for BL31 and got ROCKCHIP_TPL from <a href="https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rkbin" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rkbin</a>. </p><p>I compiled them and got a sort of warning-alike that OP-TEE is missing but I am not sure how to deal with it.</p><p>I have tried to compile it (I am not cross-compiling here) but I got error that I do not have GCC ARMHF compiler.</p><p>Nevertheless, the message after compilation that I wrote about sentence ago did also say that basic functionality still is there so I assumed it will boot at least something.</p><p>DietPi images have tools have option to flash boot loader to SPI, It uses files from <a href="https://dietpi.com/apt/dists/all/orangepi3b/binary-arm64/linux-u-boot-orangepi3b-edge_26.05.0-trunk-dietpi1.deb" rel="nofollow">https://dietpi.com/apt/dists/all/orange … ietpi1.deb</a> for that operation. </p><p>I moved those files from their original place somewhere else and copied ones I compiled with same name in their place.</p><p>I tried to flash it with that tool(not its fault since flashes from (*deb file mentioned above) files from have never failed), result is corrupted boot loader. Although this is not my first time.</p><p>So what I with to ask now as it is related to this process, how to update U-Boot boot loader correctly, preferably with &#039;dd&#039;? This topic confuses me, I am not very well-versed in it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (thes3pt3mb3r)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 08:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[[SOLVED] How to upgrade from Excalibur to Freia (What about freia-security)?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7714&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The quickest way to get security fixes is to track Ceres (unstable).</p><p>Of course that is also the quickest way to get bugs!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (abower)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 17:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Plasma-discover don't work out of the box]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7884&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Elyon</p><p>Just tried another time to install Devuan with Plasma.</p><p>Only 2 categories of Plasma works, and those are &quot;Applications complements&quot; and &quot;Plasma complements&quot;. My system is in spanish so I don&#039;t know if translations are accurate.</p><p>Thing is, I can&#039;t see any .deb on Discover, it displays a message &quot;We haven&#039;t found anything&quot; at every category (all apps, accesibility, science and engineering, etc...).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (franmm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[[SOLVED] Devuan and M2020W printer wireless]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7892&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>I wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... because it is broadcasting and I do not want it to.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Update:<br />As a last resort, I joined and signed in to &#039;HP Support&#039; to &#039;start a <a href="https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printing-Errors-or-Lights-Stuck-Print-Jobs/Disabling-M2020W-wireless/m-p/9637678" rel="nofollow">conversation&#039;</a> to see if I could get some information regarding this issue.</p><p>What followed was an exchange with a <span class="bbc">Jerry_57</span>, apparently an HP employee but most probably not a human one.<br />I say <em>apparently</em> because it was like speaking to a wall.</p><p>Not too surprised though.<br />Some years ago I had a similar experience with Intel regarding the on-board 82566DM-2 Gigabit controller which (yes, same issue) could not be disabled in any way.</p><p>Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard must be turning in their graves.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 08:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7892&amp;action=new</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[How to pure OpenRC-based Devuan?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7853&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Devarch,</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>the keyword is &quot;Ceres&quot; smile</p></div></blockquote></div><p>True, but I have now backported <span class="bbc">runit-services</span> to Debian trixie, meaning the Devuan <span class="bbc">excalibur-backports</span> repository gives access to the version of runit-services which is in Devuan Freia, as of today (<span class="bbc">0.12.0~bpo13+1</span>).</p><p>That covers services which got added in Freia&#039;s version of runit-services; it does not cover the tiny number of packages which obtained their own native runit scripts in Freia as they would need to have their own individual backports, too.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (abower)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 06:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[How to Switch to the Devuan OpenRC Setup Post-Desktop Live Install?]]></title>
			<link>https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7899&amp;action=new</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>TLDR:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt install openrc
...
**********************************************************************
*** WARNING: if you are replacing sysv-rc by OpenRC, then you must ***
*** reboot immediately using the following command:                ***
for file in /etc/rc0.d/K*; do s=`basename $(readlink &quot;$file&quot;)` ; /etc/init.d/$s stop; done
**********************************************************************</code></pre></div><p>Whole thing:</p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code># apt install openrc
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Installing:
  openrc

Installing dependencies:
  libeinfo1  librc1t64

Suggested packages:
  policycoreutils

REMOVING:
  sysv-rc

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 3, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 146
  Download size: 234 kB
  Space needed: 1,944 kB / 2,401 MB available

Continue? [Y/n] Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 libeinfo1 amd64 0.56-1 [14.5 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 librc1t64 amd64 0.56-1 [33.8 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 openrc amd64 0.56-1 [186 kB]
Fetched 234 kB in 3s (76.4 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package libeinfo1:amd64.
(Reading database ... 148892 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libeinfo1_0.56-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libeinfo1:amd64 (0.56-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package librc1t64:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../librc1t64_0.56-1_amd64.deb ...
Adding &#039;diversion of /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1 to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1.usr-is-merged by librc1t64&#039;
Unpacking librc1t64:amd64 (0.56-1) ...
dpkg: sysv-rc: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
 sysvinit-core depends on sysv-rc | openrc | file-rc; however:
  Package sysv-rc is to be removed.
  Package openrc is not installed.
  Package file-rc is not installed.
 initscripts depends on sysv-rc | file-rc | openrc; however:
  Package sysv-rc is to be removed.
  Package file-rc is not installed.
  Package openrc is not installed.

(Reading database ... 148905 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing sysv-rc (3.14-4devuan1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package openrc.
(Reading database ... 148879 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../openrc_0.56-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking openrc (0.56-1) ...
Setting up libeinfo1:amd64 (0.56-1) ...
Setting up librc1t64:amd64 (0.56-1) ...
Removing &#039;diversion of /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1 to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librc.so.1.usr-is-merged by librc1t64&#039;
Setting up openrc (0.56-1) ...
Add existing services ...
 * service killprocs added to runlevel recovery
 * service bootlogs added to runlevel recovery
 * service single added to runlevel recovery
 * service console-setup.sh added to runlevel default
 * service acpi-fakekey added to runlevel default
 * service bootlogs added to runlevel default
 * service pulseaudio-enable-autospawn added to runlevel default
 * service rsyslog added to runlevel default
 * service sudo added to runlevel default
 * service uuidd added to runlevel default
 * service acpid added to runlevel default
 * service anacron added to runlevel default
 * service cron added to runlevel default
 * service dbus added to runlevel default
 * service exim4 added to runlevel default
 * service rmnologin added to runlevel default
 * service rsync added to runlevel default
 * service avahi-daemon added to runlevel default
 * service bluetooth added to runlevel default
 * service elogind added to runlevel default
 * service lightdm added to runlevel default
 * service network-manager added to runlevel default
 * service slim added to runlevel default
 * service cups added to runlevel default
 * service cups-browsed added to runlevel default
 * service saned added to runlevel default
 * service rc.local added to runlevel default
 * service stop-bootlogd added to runlevel default
 * service live-config added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountkernfs.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service eudev added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountdevsubfs.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service udev added to runlevel sysinit
 * service keyboard-setup.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service bootlogd added to runlevel sysinit
 * service hostname.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service checkroot.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service cryptdisks-early added to runlevel sysinit
 * service checkroot-bootclean.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service kmod added to runlevel sysinit
 * service cryptdisks added to runlevel sysinit
 * service checkfs.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountall.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mount-configfs added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountall-bootclean.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service apparmor added to runlevel sysinit
 * service brightness added to runlevel sysinit
 * service procps added to runlevel sysinit
 * service stop-bootlogd-single added to runlevel sysinit
 * service urandom added to runlevel sysinit
 * service networking added to runlevel sysinit
 * service rpcbind added to runlevel sysinit
 * service nfs-common added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountnfs.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service mountnfs-bootclean.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service alsa-utils added to runlevel sysinit
 * service bootmisc.sh added to runlevel sysinit
 * service lm-sensors added to runlevel sysinit
 * service screen-cleanup added to runlevel sysinit
 * service x11-common added to runlevel sysinit
 * service live-tools added to runlevel sysinit
 * service sendsigs added to runlevel off
 * service umountnfs.sh added to runlevel off
 * service umountfs added to runlevel off
 * service umountroot added to runlevel off
 * service savecache added to runlevel off
 * service cgroups added to runlevel sysinit
 * Caching service dependencies ...
Error: udev is the name of a real and virtual service.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootlogd a&gt; hwclock u&gt; rsyslog u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; udev u&gt; mountdevsubfs.sh p&gt; mountdevsubfs n&gt; bootlogd.
 * Solving the loop by breaking udev u&gt; mountdevsubfs.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; udev u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking udev u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh p&gt; mountnfs-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh p&gt; mountnfs-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh p&gt; mountnfs-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; rpcbind.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountnfs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking nfs-common u&gt; mountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking networking u&gt; rpcbind.
 * Solving the loop by breaking rpcbind u&gt; mountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking ifupdown u&gt; mountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountnfs-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountall u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall n&gt; mountall-bootclean.sh p&gt; mountall-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs n&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: bootmisc.sh p&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks-early a&gt; umountfs u&gt; networking p&gt; ifupdown u&gt; rpcbind n&gt; nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh p&gt; umountnfs n&gt; sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking sendsigs u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; networking.
 * Solving the loop by breaking ifupdown u&gt; umountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking nfs-common u&gt; umountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking networking u&gt; umountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking rpcbind u&gt; umountnfs.sh.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountall-bootclean u&gt; bootmisc.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; udev u&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; live-tools.
 * Solving the loop by breaking udev u&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; rsyslog u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; rsyslog.
 * Solving the loop by breaking rsyslog u&gt; live-tools.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountall u&gt; live-tools.
 * Solving the loop by breaking umountfs u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs u&gt; mountnfs.sh p&gt; mountnfs n&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall u&gt; mountnfs-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall n&gt; mountall-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc n&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Found a solvable dependency loop: cryptdisks a&gt; checkfs n&gt; mountall.sh p&gt; mountall n&gt; mountall-bootclean.sh p&gt; mountall-bootclean u&gt; live-tools a&gt; umountroot n&gt; cryptdisks.
 * Solving the loop by breaking live-tools a&gt; umountroot.
 * Solving the loop by breaking cryptdisks a&gt; umountfs.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountnfs-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc.
 * Solving the loop by breaking mountall-bootclean.sh a&gt; bootmisc.                                                         [ ok ]
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*** WARNING: if you are replacing sysv-rc by OpenRC, then you must ***
*** reboot immediately using the following command:                ***
for file in /etc/rc0.d/K*; do s=`basename $(readlink &quot;$file&quot;)` ; /etc/init.d/$s stop; done
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Processing triggers for man-db (2.13.1-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.41-12+deb13u1) ...</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[[SOLVED] how start ntp?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>brocashelm</strong><br />Thanks a lot man, time now works correctly <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>root@devuan:/home/freeartist-devuan# dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

Current default time zone: &#039;Europe/Kyiv&#039;
Local time is now:      Fri Apr 10 18:47:19 EEST 2026.
Universal Time is now:  Fri Apr 10 15:47:19 UTC 2026.

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			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (deepforest)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sound doesn't work out of the box on Devuan Excalibur with Plasma DE]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know about running KDE in a non-systemd distro. I wouldn&#039;t do. </p><p>I run Void in the last year and I tested major Desktop Environments: Gnome,KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon.&#160; As I remember KDE has some systemd-dependencies, some KDE module were unusable in Void. There are rumors that more systemd dependencies will be added in KDE. And each update on KDE packages can bring problems, for a rolling release such as Void is not really a good option. That&#039;s a bit annoying for the end user.</p><p>If I would run KDE, I would choose OpenSUSE or Fedora. OpenSUSE is a better choice than Fedora, Fedora is unstable, is just the testing bed for RHEL. I would not use it. But in OpenSUSE, KDE was the default choice for a long time, many vets of OpenSUSE run KDE. And of course KUbuntu. I don&#039;t know about the other &#039;n variants, I don&#039;t think they really matter.</p><p>XFCE and Cinnamon are the wisest choices in my opinion. They work everywhere. If you want Wayland than labwc is an excellent choice . It just works in Devuan <img src="https://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 14:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />can it be that you selected <strong>deb.devuan.org</strong> and not <strong>es.deb.devuan.org</strong>?<br />If so, there is a fair chance that the selection of deb.devuan.org did not work and the installer assumed &quot;no network mirror available&quot; and hence installed from CDROM instead.<br />The cause is often that some ISPs and their DNS infrastructure cannot deal with that kind of round-robin DNS name resolution.<br />It&#039;s an old topic here. Always select the mirror address that has your country&#039;s name prepended like es.deb.devuan.org.<br />I hope it helps.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 08:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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