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#1 2018-06-28 21:29:56

Ottavio
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Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

Hi all,

I have a laptop with a dual boot installation Windows 10 + LMDE 2.

I'm aware there is a document about migrating from Debian Jessie to Devuan Ascii:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … e-to-ascii

I wonder if a painless migration from LMDE to Devuan is possible.

LMDE 2 relies heavily on Mate + Gnome despite not using Systemd.

Has anybody actually done it?

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#2 2018-06-29 00:23:07

ivanovnegro
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

I guess it would be possible but not really recommended because it is heavily customized to be able do upgrade without major problems.

But if you want to experiment try to change /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect Devuan ascii stretch, basically following the documentation you mentioned, and remove every Mint repo. Before that back up your system. It could eat your cat but why not try it. smile Painless? Probably not really.

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#3 2018-06-29 00:45:18

golinux
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

I think you might be the first.  Would be curious to see what happens.  Ubuntu pkgs may break Devuan even if clean of systemd.  If some are dependent on systemd . . . well, you can imagine . . .  Heed ivanovnegro's advice for backup.

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#4 2018-06-29 07:42:36

Ottavio
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

In case I decided to follow this route. what should I do with these files:

/etc/lsb-release

/etc/apt/preferences.d/official-extra-repositories.pref
/etc/apt/preferences.d/official-package-repositories.pref


Can I safely remove /etc/lsb-release and  all files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/* ?

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#5 2018-06-29 08:51:15

Panopticon
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

If you are familiar with running virtual machines give that option a try first and see what happens, if you have the bandwidth and time install LMDE 2 and do a migration to ASCII and see how it fares?

But to be honest i think LMDE2 is a whole different creature to pure debian, going from the below link LMDE is not systemd based but rather sysinit i think?

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.p … bian_based

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#6 2018-06-29 11:06:20

Ottavio
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

Panopticon wrote:

If you are familiar with running virtual machines give that option a try first and see what happens, if you have the bandwidth and time install LMDE 2 and do a migration to ASCII and see how it fares?

But to be honest i think LMDE2 is a whole different creature to pure debian, going from the below link LMDE is not systemd based but rather sysinit i think?

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.p … bian_based

Yes, it boots sysVinit by default (systemd is an alternative option) but the whole mate-mint desktop depends on systemd libraries.

I broke the system once by removing systemd. I had to reinstall a whole lot of packages to get it to work again.

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#7 2018-06-29 15:05:54

ivanovnegro
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

Ottavio wrote:

In case I decided to follow this route. what should I do with these files:

/etc/lsb-release

/etc/apt/preferences.d/official-extra-repositories.pref
/etc/apt/preferences.d/official-package-repositories.pref


Can I safely remove /etc/lsb-release and  all files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/* ?

Here lies the problem. It is full of stuff that Mint did on top of Debian. I guess yes, you could remove all this cruft because in the end you will only need Devuan sources with the default apt preferences.

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#8 2018-06-29 23:07:25

Caluser2000
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Re: Migration from LMDE 2 to Ascii: possible? Has anybody done it?

I'd back up any documents and wanted files then do a fresh install. It will be a lot cleaner setup that way and less mucking around trying to sort out dependencies later on.

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