This makes me kind of sad as gnu boot will definitely lag behind libreboot and canoeboot. I get some people don't like her policies including drama outside of development as well as allowing non-free blobs, but is security worth taking a potential nosedive just to feel pleasure?

It just seems like a megalomaniac reason to refuse canoeboot or libreboot based on this.

Canoeboot however is what gnuboot aims to be.  The only difference? More updates. 

All I am saying is that no hardware that libreboot, coreboot, canoeboot, or similar is 100% free. 

Just keep this all in mind.  Also, the microcode that starts in the system even if its not updated is still non-free. The only difference of updating it, is that it could be better or it could be worse.

Anywho just some thoughts I really hope people will take to heart. Although I have seen disappointment on this before.

So... meh.

@sinOjOs not just the government but corporations in general.

This is the same thought process of why x86 needs to be abandoned by insert distro here ________

I don't think we have gotten to a point where 32 bit is obsolete to where it can't be supported on any distro.

FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD support lots of old hardware some that is older than 32 bit x86.

So there's that.

While this isn't directly related, i feel like it has similar reasoning.

planned obsolescence is corporations mantra.  You can be pretty sure that systemd was created for a purpose similar to planned obsolescence.

Nothing sane anyhow.

@greenjeans is there any proper section for user spongebob's comment?

@golinux why can't we have one mindless thread where people just spew nonsense over and over again?

And I am not including the joke thread in that.

Shots fired!

@golinux admittedly, I looked at the links and yeah it is somewhat random even from someone like me who has an "overactive imagination!"

apulse doesn't seem to work anymore last time I tried in making sound work on firefox other firefox web ext fork

pity golinux modified your post, now I don't know what specifically was stupid out of his last post.

Or out of line...

I imagine it might've made me chuckle if I had seen it.

Hyperbola devs could definitely use help and funds. The more funds they receive, the faster they can finish HyperbolaBSD's stable.

Also, the more architectures in the future they can support and so on.

Then a devuan fork could be formed from it.

I agree, linux is getting really bloated by crap.

Try kiwi berries, they taste like kiwis without the annoying expletive pits.

@golinux I wish to do the same in the future.

At this time, I keep what I want to keep safe on a libre computer which I define as if it has backdoors, they are disabled, such as intel me and it has no blobs on it and is 100% RYP. Respects Your Privacy.

RYF as FSF talks about, is impossible currently. Respects your Freedom ain't possible yet.

Basically, the container approach.   I only have one computer for non-free stuff needed and it uses devuan.

The rest go Hyperbola with no blobs.

I would love it btw, if Google lost control of their Recaptcha nonsense more than google chrome.

For now, this is a start.

I have only had maybe one time where ODT crashed in libreoffice writer or focuswriter.

I had formatted it in one of those and then made edits in abiword.

Big mistake...

@stopai

I would choose NetBSD over FreeBSD myself, like I would ever use a system that equates "The devil" with "being free"

Like hell... pun wasn't originally intended, but its still appropriate.

I rarely take such positions, but it disgusts me to support extremism on even the smallest level. Besides, FreeBSD has a lot of trash in it anyways from linux world.

As for the thread itself, someone pointed out libre licenses making such exports and embragos pointless.

I agree with that.