I just realized something btw, I missed some very interesting insane stuff in this thread... I thought I was going to want to get popcorn, rather than miss another thread going off the rails...

Seems it hasn't done so...

This is for the better though, sometimes some "trolls" go alot further than anyone should ever go... into crazy town!

Btw, unrelated but... duckduckgo, cannot be worse than Google... that is completely 100% impossible... at this time.

Duckduckgo, still has a long way to go... to get there. Maybe someday?

I don't know the specifics, etc... but what kind of tracking do they do?

Also, is it as hard to evade as Google and do they force javascript down anyone who visits their website?

If its not yes to all of these, then no its not worse as of now.

As for WASM, I will look this up, but is that... to do with flash?

If so, that is tiny in danger level regarding escaping compared to javascript... although it still is probably way more malware prone then javascript as an obvious...

adobe flash was proprietary anyhow and the web wasn't flooded enough to where it couldn't be dealt with if I had to guess...

This was my latest attempt, more or less, I kind of wanted to have it occur every so often, via a specific duration...
#!/bin/sh
while : ; do
dir="$HOME/WallpaperZone"
count="1"

mkdir -p "$dir"
while [ $count -lt 11 ] ; do
   starfish -o "$dir"/Wallpaper"$count"
   count=$((count+1)) # ah ha ha
sleep 60000
done

Actually, this is going to sound insane, but I just found my error... stupid or not

insert embarrassed face here...  __________

seems I have two different sets of "whiles"  this doesn't work, does it...

xD

EDIT: FINAL hopefully?

#!/bin/sh
while : FLAG=0; do
touch=$(date +%N)
    starfish -d 60 -o ~/Wallpaper/$(date +%N)
sleep 60000
done

I use this and it works, except for one thing...

*Keeps trying to change the most recent one and not create a new one from the CURRENT date*

On that note, I will just say:

Linux should always be the base and if microsoft is really needed for anyone, it should be loaded within linux.

Because linux would at least give some security even if you used friggin ubuntu or its derivatives.

Even with system dumb within it...

Can you show me an example of theloop you mentioned?

Something akin to,  create new wallpaper via starfish per duration with a different name via date, then start over,

Been trying to get it to work, but it gives me the unexpected end issue when I try...

*sigh*

@dcolburn @golinux @glennW

Hmm.. not vaporware... no.

They are still working on it... thing is, the alpha iso itself isnt even out yet.

They could use some help lately... hence why I brought this up.

Actually,  like the poster before me just said Parabola is an arch-fork.

However, Hyperbola was its own thing, a hard fork of arch linux with debian patches for stability privacy/security and long term support.

That being said, they could use donations and help in general right now, due to the lack of devs and help as a whole...

Luke the uxp developer, has been... away for the time being, related to some management issue that Hyperbola was willing to address, but... problem being, he isn't answering any  email messages, so... yeah.

It is a truly unfortunate situation.

The good news, being, they are still trying to do so.

https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:manual:contrib:hyperbola_roadmap

They could move faster if they got more help, also... you could potentially make a fork of devuan off of it, for whatever purpose you wanted.

PS, wine no longer interests me... at all.

My reason for wanting a fork, would be to increase devs willing to help... and to get the stable iso finally finished.

That being said,  help would be appreciated for them.

To be fair, just looking at the draco desktop project's use of dbus in it, a while back... I may have mentioned this before, but G4JC, mentioned to me, that dbus actually fingerprints your hardware ID... even if at the time it didn't upload it, its possible they added that, so that it would be easy to make linux more finger-printable...

I would very much like it, if the majority of developers would wake up and realize, that redhat is no friend to the open source community... let alone the free software or as some call it the libre software community.

This might be further proof that my theory of EEE is dead and has been replaced by something much worse...

Embrace
Extend
Gain Complete Control

This is probably why corporations like Microsoft have mostly given up on trying to outright defeating their opponents...

I think now they decided, since we can't beat them, lets take advantage of them, till we can acquire them.

This all being said,  I read below, that you guys seem to think it is not like that because of the systemd developers...

Okay... but honestly,  no function like systemd, dbus, wayland, etc... should ever need to keep adding features like it is a rolling release bleeding edge project, constantly...

I think they do things this way, because it gives them plausible deniability that they are trying to take over the Linux ecosystem.

Considering they develop it, that also means, people have to go to them for support which means they can make a lot of money in addition to the above.

I am glad other alternatives exist to this mainstream corporate broken garbage...

Its good that systemd-free distros exist still, but to be fair,  I begin to wonder if its getting closer to time, to for not just Hyperbola, but other distros to go down a similar path... even if not on a fully libre level...  at some point, I begin to think, that it might be wise for other  non-systemd distros, to start ditching so much bloatware.

At least wayland for example, java would also be wise, given its security issues, etc...

Though I doubt getting rid of dbus will ever be on devuan's radar until someone makes a lightweight replacement that can make the original dbus, not needed.

Aka, like OpenWRT's ubus, only with the same support as dbus for everything.

Anywho, just some of my thoughts...

The above script, works in making multiple directories, but there is one thing:

After I make the directory, I want to output a file, which I seemed to have forgotten, requires the -o

option... after the duration.

After which, I want to make a new wallpaper in said location and when it does, have the command cd used,    then repeat, etc...

The folder I want to be the wallpaper one, aka, where it makes new wallpapers:

would be called WallpaperZone or something like that...

So it seems I made some really silly blunders, in my explanation of what I wanted... sorry bout that...

That being said, you got most of this right already.

Although, I wonder if this can be done directly with, making random wallpapers just in the same directory itself...

Aka, having each wallpaper have a different date name.

I wonder...

Anywho, let me know if this is possible...

To be honest, it almost seems to me like, microsoft might be planning to go a very specific route, hint:

A certain search engine giant that everyone says to use to find stuff may very well turn out to be their new model of doing things...

I kid you not, they may very well start making more of their system open source, judging by their Azure practices and other stuff.

It would be both awful and sneaky for them to do.

Frankly, if they haven't yet, I am surprised they haven't.

Not sure if that would be more good or more bad or combination of both compared to that search engine giant's way of doing things that I mentioned above.

the impaired ISOs, I think last I checked, were deprecated, due to a varying bunch of reasons:

Under a lot of stress
Maintaining the GNU version, till the first stable is out, possibly longer, so they are maintaining two different forms of infrastructure for two operating systems
I think the impaired ISO might also have some bad dependencies? I forget...

They are not against anyone willing to help develop tho,  but time is also a factor.
Most development is being used to focus on HyperbolaBSD.

Small team
etc...

EDIT:

And those focused on the 0.4.2 Hyperbola GNU version, are already occupied alot.

But if you want to add the impaired support, I am sure they would accept help.

Unless, someone fixed it already. Not sure tho

Actually, I think wayland is the sytemd of display protocols...

I  should have said this before...

But yeah, I agree with that comment that the  devo that blog made.

Unless corporations want their systems to get fried by every malevolent hacker under the sun...

Given the buggy nature, just overloading the system should be enough to crash it...

I highly doubt malevolent hackers couldn't break that.

I guess whoever made wayland can congratulate itself on making something as bad as systemd in stability...

meh...

I didn't suspect this, to be honest...

I knew redhat was trying to
Embrace
Extend
Take Full Control

I just didn't know that Lennart had sunk that low from a while back...

Man is that just plain...

cold, even for him...

That being said, it is also possible, that redhat didn't give a damn if he did.

Given their ways of messing with the distro ecosystem as a whole.

Whether you consider it GNU/Linux or Linux...

So... yeah, this doesn't surprise me, at all.

EDIT: well, except the part about him working for microsoft since a while ago.

Surprised he didn't work for google instead, to be honest...

xD