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Report about apulse in the middle of the thread.
Yes, I was affirming that as the solution, not pulsecrap or pipecrap.
I asked my North Korean friend what it's like to live there.
He said, "Well, I can't complain."
Forgot to say this,
AWFUL!
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oui wrote:my pc?
Dell Aptitude XT3 i7 4 cores 8GB Ram 1 TB
*laughs in 2-core @1ghz 4GB ram 300gb HD*
*laughs in dual core i7-3520M with 512GB SSD and 512GB MSATA!*
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Also with coreboot and neutered intel me!
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Unplug the mouse, run "tail -f /var/log/syslog > capture.log", then plug in the mouse and then type ctrl-C to stop the tail. Then drop in the log into a code box here.
Without the quotes, it said permission denied for some reason. No idea why.
Is the mouse's batterie charged?
Can't remember haveing mouse problems the past decade or so. Would you mind sharing the manufacturer?
Logitech, the battery is charged, it works on Hyperbola as I said above, but not devuan.
Although, lsusb isn't available either... which is weird.
I have a usb wireless mouse for specific purposes, but it refuses to start on devuan. I wondered, if someone could give me a bunch of ways to do so.
I have yet to get it working. Its possible that debian did something stupid that makes this complicated... idk.
I have no problem on Hyperbola with this issue, its just annoying as can be on devuan though.
What packages typically does it require to get a usb mouse working such as M650 L LEFT?
Do i need to modprobe something? I am using openrc, so if you have sysvinit ideas, adapt them please.
The fact that firefox requires pulseaudio, for sound is yet another sign their current web browser is crap.
I been using uxp web browsers again for this reason alone.
Not to mention, firefox is an ugly monster since 57+
The old UI looked fine, the new one is fisher price eye candy.
But I digress, apulse as was said, does help you to bypass this problem.
I don't know if you can use firejail with apulse though and still load it though.
steve, most things redhat makes are on that level... I kid you not. dbus, is the hardest to remove that I know of.
Point being, the problems started before systemd even was conceived. I have learned this by web searches, chats, research, info, etc...
the fact that so many things depend on dbus and other irrelevant dependencies when better options exist, yet people choose to use these...
I mean dbus fingerprints your hardware id! What possible reason does this make any sense?
Aiye...
then there is pulseaudio, pipewire, avahi, etc...
Even if you don't use those programs, their libraries are still required to install most things on mainstream distros, even if the programs work without them just fine.
Devuan though not mainstream still has some of this.
Dependencies should always be required ones that are needed to make it function. If dependencies required is anything more than that, its a freedom breaker. Its the devs way of saying, "We want you to use this!"
Why should they have a say? Answer: They shouldn't.
I guess K.I.S.S has been abandoned by mainstream distros and even some derivatives.
Archlinux being the biggest hypocrite of the bunch...
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Lightweight my ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crs4Shbe4e4&t=1209s PAIN - Coming Home
That isn't pain! This is pain:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PCfiqY05BpA
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Yeah, I am aware the last flash is a self-destructing one.
The best option honestly, for using flash, would be to make an open source version of it and make it work without needing adobe's second to last version.
Maybe if someone made an open source replacement it could be vastly less vulnerable to security issues when used with the open source version.
zapper wrote:Virtualbox requires systemd, if I recall correctly... that I know of...
That is not correct. I am using VBox now for so many years, I can't really tell how long. And I have always used the package supplied by https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. On Devuan no issues with systemd all along from ASCII to Excalibur.
Surprising, I thought there was no systemd-free debian build... weird
The only reason people cater to microsoft, is greed and stupidity...
Although, they mostly are a part of the same package.
Microsoft is the definition of:
Security? what's that? We just install a lot of backdoors in our system and when people complain we pretend they don't exist and mine their info despite the risk that we could kill the planet with our data centers!
And then we say, what could possibly go wrong like a bunch of greedy egomaniacs ...
Virtualbox requires systemd, if I recall correctly... that I know of...
I would hardly trust virtualbox for this reason alone.
Smh...
When I heard Debian discontinued Debian 8, I said you better bring it back or I will make it come back even if it is a stretch, buster!
minor edit!
I heard a bad call of duty joke, it was a bunch of crap though so someone threw a dirty stinking fish called a cod at my face.
xD
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I saw miachel jackson's ghost yesterday, he appeared to be drinking something... I could tell it was him because he was white... ![]()
I said that looked pear shaped, so someone threw two socks at my face!
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Necro-posting is a bit silly. Especially since HoaS has long since left the building . . .
/me yawns . . .
I find it amusing, as I said elsewhere, its like being a ghostwriter.
As for the necro-posting, I find that even more funny due to how absurd doing so is.
Leave it to GNOME to break things (again). Bad enough that they broke extensions for the umpteenth time, now they're also getting ready to push wayland-only in the future.
Link to the article:
https://news.itsfoss.com/gnome-wayland-xorg/Unless wayland gets it together with NVIDIA cards (Which is a startling number of PC's these days), I can see this ending badly for users of that brand. Then again, when was NVIDIA ever really kind towards Linux?....
Recently, they have been more kind, although that might not mean much.
Gnome on the other hand, those devs are poison and should be barred from adding their bloat to other communities. Just say no to bloat.
Not all of chromium is open source though.
The real solution would be to make all copyright and trademarks be required to be open source.
Hint, mozilla would hate this!
Despite their restrictive trademarks being useless except for the purposes of bullying people whom they disagree with if they screw up...
Rust especially is a good example of mozilla's bs.
Why in God's name would you want an OS to look like Windows Metro? The goal should be the opposite: to take Flat-Design garbage and make it look more like Windows Classic/Luna/Aero.
To each their own I guess...
But either way, KDE5 and newer, GNOME 3+, CINNAMON, all do the job the OP is asking
hahahahaha, thanks for the laughs everyone. :-)
Agreed!
Though in my opinion, some of them were meh, but some were extremely amusing.
Hello:
zapper wrote:... kidding obviously.
Of course. 8^D
A.
Sarcasm is entirely too much fun for me sometimes I admit.
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False positives do occur by clamav supposedly, but I don't think malware is in the debian repos. That sounds straight up nuts.
I could understand if people thought node, java or similar to have malware in it, or some of the linux frameworks that are heavily bloated, but even then, unixlike repos don't have the problems you described, at least 90% of the time anyhow.
Possibly less problematic if its a desktop/laptop and not a server.
Fest3er, so you are saying they don't have a heart? I think its more likely their heart is no better than an abysmal hole of darkness.
This being said, sysvinit isn't great by itself.
However, openrc, runit, dinit, s6-init, are all way better options than systemd. Hell, even upstart was better than systemd!
What does that say!
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