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#2826 Re: Off-topic » ps_mem.py » 2019-06-27 17:29:15

fsmithred wrote:

Are you sure you're running devuan?

Oh yes, that's Devuan — I used the netinstall ASCII image then upgraded to beowulf and installed my simple-desktop package and switched to OpenRC.

It's running under 64-bit QEMU/KVM with 4GiB assigned and it runs very well indeed.

devuan:~$ pstree
init─┬─cron
     ├─2*[dbus-daemon]
     ├─dbus-launch
     ├─elogind-daemon
     ├─5*[getty]
     ├─login───startx───xinit─┬─Xorg───{Xorg}
     │                        └─dwm─┬─slstatus
     │                              └─xterm───loksh───pstree
     ├─rsyslogd───3*[{rsyslogd}]
     └─udevd
devuan:~$
fsmithred wrote:

That looks more like antix.

antiX is awesome but I would have to spend ages gutting it like a fish to get the desktop I want but Devuan lets me work my way up from scratch, which is much quicker and simpler smile

#2827 Re: Off-topic » ps_mem.py » 2019-06-26 17:52:34

fsmithred wrote:

I can't see your image. All I get are ads when I allow javascript.

Click on "continue to image" to see the image smile

Ogis1975 wrote:

I never understood the benefits of this program

It displays the memory used for each process running, which can be very useful.

@OP: why not just post the text rather than an image of text?

Like this:

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

216.0 KiB +  71.5 KiB = 287.5 KiB       startx
284.0 KiB + 117.5 KiB = 401.5 KiB       init
312.0 KiB + 147.5 KiB = 459.5 KiB       cron
260.0 KiB + 222.5 KiB = 482.5 KiB       xinit
284.0 KiB + 240.5 KiB = 524.5 KiB       slstatus
364.0 KiB + 186.5 KiB = 550.5 KiB       dbus-launch
616.0 KiB + 134.5 KiB = 750.5 KiB       loksh
580.0 KiB + 671.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       getty (5)
600.0 KiB + 698.0 KiB =   1.3 MiB       dbus-daemon (2)
  1.0 MiB + 339.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       login
  1.1 MiB + 433.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       sudo
  1.7 MiB + 107.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       elogind-daemon
  1.7 MiB + 186.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       rsyslogd
  1.3 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   2.6 MiB       dwm
  2.8 MiB + 216.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB       udevd
  3.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   5.1 MiB       xterm
 42.5 MiB + 816.5 KiB =  43.3 MiB       Xorg
---------------------------------
                         66.5 MiB
=================================

I win big_smile

#2828 Re: Installation » laptop failed to wake up from suspend mode, boot failure afterwards » 2019-06-24 16:32:23

erdos wrote:

running fsck from slackware (ver. 14.1) results,

bash-4.2# fsck /dev/sda5
fsck from util-linux 2.21.2
e2fsck 1.42.8 (20-Jun-2013)
/dev/sda5 has unsupported feature(s): metadata_csum
e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck!

i have ascii installation image on usb drive, will that be of help?

Yes, run fsck from the USB drive system, the version in Slackware is not compatible.

You should also be able to mount & chroot from the USB system.

#2829 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] firefox-esr update » 2019-06-24 16:11:12

v60.7.2 of firefox-esr has just been made available in the Devuan ceres repositories:

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ceres/ … esr-1.html

I presume it will filter down to the other branches soon.

#2830 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » safe networking with only one tool » 2019-06-23 09:35:29

nogeek wrote:

I am not sure about that firewall in the router you have talked about, I can not find anything like that in the router preferences.

I think Dutch_Master is referring to the NAT provided by your router, this is known as a hardware firewall and prevents your local IP addresses from being accessed from the interweb.

If you plug your ethernet connection in directly without using a router then you will lose the protections afforded by NAT, this is not advisable.

nogeek wrote:

Thank you for the advice of a professional!

I don't have any formal training in IT and I work as a professional motorcyclist smile

#2831 Re: Installation » laptop failed to wake up from suspend mode, boot failure afterwards » 2019-06-23 09:22:19

Which filesystem is Devuan installed on?

Do you have the appropriate filesystem tools package installed in the system from which you are trying to mount the Devuan partition?

Have you tried fsck?

It may be best to boot the Devuan ASCII minimal-live.iso image to ensure compatibility:

https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devu … imal-live/

#2833 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] firefox-esr update » 2019-06-23 09:16:07

nogeek wrote:

this is not https.

Why do you care if your ISP can see which packages you are downloading?

Try

wget https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/f/firefox-esr/firefox-esr_60.7.1esr-1~deb9u1_amd64.deb
# dpkg -i firefox-esr_60.7.1esr-1~deb9u1_amd64.deb

#2834 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » safe networking with only one tool » 2019-06-21 17:35:49

nogeek wrote:
ip addr add 192.168.0.254/27 brd + dev eth0

followed by

ip link set eth0 up

That address looks wrong — are you sure you need a /27 subnet mask? Most networks will use /24 instead.

And you don't need the brd + bit at all.

To determine the correct address range enable DHCP, use that to connect and then run

ip a
ip r

The addresses can then be copied for your custom commands.

nogeek wrote:

It do not work for me.

You need to post exactly what you tried so that we can see where you went wrong.

Have you populated /etc/resolv.conf with valid nameservers?

I use the plain ip command & wpa_supplicant to connect via wireless on my laptop, it works well.

#2835 Re: Other Issues » Any public build services that include a Devuan chroot? » 2019-06-20 16:52:24

It should be fine to use the openSUSE Build Service to host Devuan stuff using their Debian VMs, the distributions are binary compatible. It has options for testing/unstable repositories now.

Just be careful about systemd dependencies smile

The OBS supports Fedora & CentOS as well btw.

#2836 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Kernel console/VT: boot msgs cut at 80 chars » 2019-06-20 16:45:27

Try adding your video driver module to the initramfs to get an early KMS start.

Add the name of the module (i915 for Intel) to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and run

# update-initramfs -u -k all

#2837 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Listing Services On System » 2019-06-18 19:48:43

Unfortunately sysvinit does not offer true process supervision and so is incapable of keeping track of running services.

Try OpenRC instead, that does offer process supervision.

List running services and their status with

rc-status

Display all available services with

rc-update -v show

#2839 Re: Other Issues » Advantages and disadvantages of backports » 2019-06-18 16:56:48

halfBleed wrote:

if it is a good idea to upgrade everything to the version in backports

No, not at all.

From the official Debian site:

backports.debian.org wrote:

Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!

It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports.

https://backports.debian.org/

And because backports are drawn from testing they are also subject to the same 10-14 day transition delay from sid and are not covered by the Security Team so you may be exposing your system to serious vulnerabilities.

#2840 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-16 20:07:52

F_Sauce wrote:

Stay friendly folks!

I have nothing but love for Panopticon and I totally agree with their assessment.

@Nili: thank you but I can be a real asshole when I'm in a mood big_smile

Sorry for the OT, OP!

#2841 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 20:05:38

The elogind package was created by the Devuan developers and adopted by Debian.

Thanks Devuan!

#2842 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-15 17:57:41

Panopticon wrote:

You are like an embeded virus

Thanks d00d, that's the nicest thing anybody's said to me in a while smile

#2843 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:46:06

It might be worth submitting a bug report to Debian against the buster dbus package complaining that it depends solely on libsystemd0 when it should have libelogind0 as an alternative dependency.

Or tell the init-diversity mailing list and see what they say about it:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailm … -diversity

FWIW I had beowulf running dbus-free under OpenRC, it was lovely smile

#2844 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:39:32

tmartins wrote:

I'm reading in a few places that the systemd on Debian is really, really bad.

Do you have any links? Sounds like FUD to me...

tmartins wrote:

The package maintainers are leaving Debian!

So two maintainers have left then?

Debian have over 250 developers so I'm sure they'll manage smile

tmartins wrote:

People are saying that if you want a "stable" systemd-based system, you have to choose CentOS or Arch.

Which people?

Arch isn't stable at all, it changes all the time. It is surprisingly reliable though, as long as you install the LTS kernel — the non-LTS kernel breaks a lot (and certainly more often than systemd).

tmartins wrote:

Any thoughts?

Nice troll post, well done smile

#2845 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-14 21:32:24

tmartins wrote:

updating both sysvinit-core and systemd-shim?

The shim is dead and buried but sysvinit-core is alive & well and receiving updates in Debian:

https://packages.debian.org/experimental/sysvinit-core

The Debian developers have adopted the Devuan elogind package to keep init diversity, as your link explains.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/elogind

I'm sure they would welcome any donations smile

#2847 Re: Installation » I lost my desktop after editing conky » 2019-06-12 14:04:56

Mr.Bean wrote:

There is no ~/.conkyrc file

Well make one then:

cp /etc/conky/conky.conf ~/.conkyrc && editor ~/.conkyrc
Mr.Bean wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Restore the file with

# apt reinstall conky

Did it but again, I can only access to my desktop as a root user and in normal user, it didn't solve my problem: desktop with only mouse pointer but nothing else, no conky, no plank nor right-click either.

Ooops, sorry, that's a dummy package.

Try

# apt reinstall conky-std # or conky-cli or conky-all if you have those version instead

If things still won't work then try deleting ~/.Xauthority and if that doesn't fix it then check for root-owned files in $HOME:

find ~ -user root

#2848 Re: Installation » I lost my desktop after editing conky » 2019-06-12 10:51:08

Mr.Bean wrote:

editing it in /etc/conky/conky.conf

That's a really bad idea, use ~/.conkyrc instead.

Restore the file with

# apt reinstall conky
Mr.Bean wrote:

as a root user, I still can access to my desktop

That's an even worse idea, don't do that. Ever.

#2849 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-12 10:46:01

Sorry OP, I'm not prepared to help you add MX sources because I don't think it's a good idea.

I also don't think wine-staging will behave any differently.

#2850 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Display manager issue » 2019-06-12 10:44:41

fabien wrote:

If I open an other TTY and then "startx", my session open and freeze as well.

Well then it can't be a display manager issue, can it?

Boot to a console and try startx from there to eliminate the DM as a source of this issue.

Have you checked your drive & memory health?

What are your sources?

apt policy

Check the syslog for any clues.

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