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#226 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-12-29 19:43:08

Yes, I was surprised not to find a 1920x1054 wallpaper option big_smile

But seriously, 1080p is probably the most common resolution for laptops so it would be nice to see wallpapers of that size.

#227 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus5preview installation failure Q » 2022-12-29 18:36:23

That ISO works fine in QEMU/KVM: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=39677#p39677

No idea about Virtualbox but I would suggest that daedalus not working in that is a feature rather than a bug. You should thank the developers for steering you away from the worst virtualisation "solution" around.

#228 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-12-29 18:35:19

The 2022-12-26 daedalus preview ISO running in QEMU/KVM:

20221229-18h54m27s-grim.png

It even adjusts the desktop resolution automatically to fit the window. Very civilised.

#229 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] nginx version » 2022-12-29 17:53:08

The package versions for the stable release are frozen some time before the release. That's why it's called "stable". There are a few notable exceptions to this, such as firefox-esr & chromium, because of the security risks of an outdated version.

See https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … tml#s3.1.3 & https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome for further explanations as to why the latest version might not be the best option.

#230 Re: DIY » cpu limitations, for power saving » 2022-12-29 15:06:13

zapper wrote:

I hear   underclocking,  increases power savings

I disagree. The scaling governors will ramp down the frequency *very* quickly if the CPU is idle. My Ryzen 5850U drops to 400MHz with the amd-pstate driver. Not much point underclocking that.

And anyway I would think it would be more power efficient to run the processor at full speed and get the job done quicker.

zapper wrote:

autocpu-freq

That looks pointless to me. There's no way a user space program can control the CPU frequency scaling as well as the kernel. Just use the powersave or conservative governor instead.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance schedutil
$

YMMV.

#231 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-12-29 14:49:07

zapper wrote:

As an example archlinux has:
Core
Community
Extra
Multilib

Don't forget the [testing], [community-testing], [multilib-testing], [kde-unstable] & [gnome-unstable] repositories.

zapper wrote:

The libraries, the programming languages, hell, any core part of the system, should be licensed permissively and be mostly bloat free.

Arch doesn't care about licencing. They don't even use SPDX identifiers in the license array. It is a user-centric distribution and so caters to the needs of the user rather than pandering to political principles.

The various repositories in Arch have very specific requirements, none of which are related to the licence: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Official_repositories

EDIT: and Arch tends to be bloated because the packages are usually compiled with most options enabled and they don't use split -dev packages, unlike Debian.

#232 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Where did obmenu go? » 2022-12-29 12:04:43

#!++ uses obmenu2, their debian directory is here. It's all MIT licensed so you don't need to ask Ben for permission. I'm sure he would grant it though.

#233 Re: DIY » Another way to debug the package without compiling. » 2022-12-29 11:35:00

geki wrote:

Now then, mate-media, which packages the applet, is not available in Debian Bookworm for some crashing reason[0]. Luckily, I found compatible packages from Ubuntu Jammy Jellyfish

Why didn't you try the version from unstable?

geki wrote:

There are several reports upstream and downstream, but all have missing symbols from glib and gtk

This one seems to have those: https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-me … -819028411

I think this would be better pursued in the bug report(s) rather than here. Sorry but I can't help otherwise.

EDIT: did you see the suggested workaround? The volumeicon-alsa package should also work in MATE if you can't get the native volume systray thingie working.

#234 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-28 21:10:29

I don't have IPv6 at the moment but I leave the firewall functionality intact just in case my ISP adds it without telling me.

#235 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-28 20:39:42

I think nftables should be the default backend for any "iptables" implementations.

See https://wiki.debian.org/nftables and run

for i in {ip{,6},arp,eb}tables ; do sudo update-alternatives --config $i ; done

All of the alternatives should be pointing to *tables-nft, change them if they don't.

Check for any extant iptables configuration with

# iptables-save

I'm pretty sure that should be blank.

#236 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-28 20:03:10

It is my understanding that ICMP echo requests should be allowed but I'm no expert.

Reference: http://shouldiblockicmp.com/

#237 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-28 19:34:52

/etc/init.d/nftables calls /usr/bin/nft -f /etc/nftables.conf so the file doesn't actually need a shebang.

EDIT: use this to check after the service starts:

# nft list ruleset

#238 Re: Off-topic » Musings on Alpine » 2022-12-28 18:38:18

Hmm. I have the greatest of respect for the antiX developers but the distribution makes some very opinionated design choices and I strongly disagree with almost all of them. I'm fighting it every step of the way.

Back to Alpine for me. They don't have any opinions about the desktop at all, which suits me far better.

#240 Re: Off-topic » Building a standard kernel for a specific computer. » 2022-12-28 17:49:59

aluma wrote:

P.S. Regarding make -j .
The question is not in the number of cores, but in the sequence of compilation of various parts. With a large number of tasks, errors are possible when some are compiled before the necessary ones are ready.

Utter nonsense.

#241 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Chromium asking for 'keyring password'? » 2022-12-28 12:17:49

The browser is the single biggest potential vulnerability in a desktop system, which is why Debian actually update their firefox-esr & chromium packages even for the stable release. Using an outdated browser is a really bad idea.

#242 Re: Off-topic » Musings on Alpine » 2022-12-28 12:14:57

Oh, that is interesting. Thanks Andy. Time to give antiX another spin...

And thanks to @admin for splitting this out :-)

#243 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Chromium asking for 'keyring password'? » 2022-12-27 20:28:11

aluma wrote:

iridium-2021.06.91-1pclos2021.x86_64.rpm

That's pretty old.

If you really want to use a browser for which Debian support is non-existent then at least use the latest version:

https://dl.iridiumbrowser.de/fedora_37/

But it's still a really bad idea. How do you keep it updated against the steady stream of CVEs?

#244 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-27 19:53:06

Not really.

It's as simple as

# apt install nftables orphan-sysvinit-scripts {g,}ufw-
# cp /usr/share/orphan-sysvinit-scripts/nftables /etc/init.d
# update-rc.d nftables defaults
# editor /etc/nftables.conf # copy in example file from my link
# /etc/init.d/nftables start

Then check with

# nft list ruleset

It would be even simpler had Debian bothered to supply an init script for nftables but unfortunately the developer doesn't give a crap about alternative init systems. For shame!

#246 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to get devuan 3's XFCE appearance into devuan 4? » 2022-12-27 17:22:50

golinux wrote:

someone found it in a secondary arch repo!

The AUR has an old version of the darkpurpy theme. I would update it and add the other versions but I don't generally bother with packages for themes. Just unpack them into ~/.local/share/themes/ and profit.

Anyway I left a note on the AUR package page with the new source URL a while ago so people can easily update it themselves.

#247 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-27 16:58:45

Perhaps check the Synaptic log as well but I thought all package management operations were collated under the dpkg log.

#248 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-27 16:51:23

Sorry, working blind with that one. Find the logs yourself then. EDIT: the system probably isn't old enough to have rotated the logs so

grep 'ufw' /var/log/dpkg.log

I don't have a De{vu,bi}an system handy so I don't actually know where the logs are...

#249 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ufw and gufw appeared to have uninstalled » 2022-12-27 16:37:24

Those packages don't seem to have been added to the banned list.

Have you checked the logs?

zcat /var/log/dpkg.log.*.gz | cat - /var/log/dpkg.log | grep 'ufw'

#250 Re: Off-topic » Musings on Alpine » 2022-12-27 14:53:49

I just selected the first mirror, which is the default. The (LTS) kernel version was only updated yesterday so perhaps you managed to try it while they were changing the version or something. Anyway it worked for me just now.

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