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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Changes in sudo (upstream)]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65588#p65588</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>well here&#039;s a simple solution and futureproofing:</p><p>first create the file <span class="bbc">/etc/sudoers.d/sudo_secure_path</span> with these contents</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># sudo secure path configuration
Defaults	secure_path=&quot;/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin&quot;</code></pre></div><p>then to set the correct permissions run</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers.d/sudo_secure_path</code></pre></div><p>or at your convenience the file and script to copy it and give the permissions is in the devuan-scripts repo under the sudo subdir <a href="https://github.com/eylles/devuan-scripts" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/eylles/devuan-scripts</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 06:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Changes in sudo (upstream)]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65586#p65586</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Thanks for that link ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You&#039;re welcome.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... hope he&#039;s still around somewhere.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No way to find out, not been able to find a trail to follow.</p><p>And if Texstar (of all people) says he has no contact info, it seems to be a dead end.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 23:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link @Altoid, I hope he&#039;s still around somewhere. His avatar used to be a cartoon chicken tapping on keys, I was raising chickens at the time and I had a lil banty rooster that looked a lot like his avatar, so I named him &quot;OP junior&quot; and posted pics frequently and he enjoyed that.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 02:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Changes in sudo (upstream)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Running a single app as root is useful and sometime necessary. Running the entire desktop as root can be unnecessarily risky if you&#039;re online or if someone else could sit down at your station and use your computer.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 23:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Changes in sudo (upstream)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kapqa wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>is this warranted behaviour or is it better to login as root user?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is, it seems, a matter of some opinion and debate. I&#039;m of the opinion that it&#039;s your system and you should use it in the way that works for you, cognizant of the risks you take by doing so. Too many people who speak of open source and &quot;freedom&quot; have far too rigid opinions of how things ought to be done.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>What you should not do is log into a desktop session as root.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I hope that&#039;s not a suggestion that all root tasks should be done through the command line only. I want my GUI file browser and text editor with a mouse cursor, right-click, clipboard, and tabs. I&#039;d have given up on Linux long ago if I had to do all the debugging and customization exclusively in the CLI.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mercury)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>sorry fo the crosspost, but just got this in &quot;news&quot; , again, and not really known what should make of it.<br />maybe it is of no relevance, after all.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>adduser (3.155) unstable; urgency=medium</p><p>&#160; The GROUPHOMES, LETTERHOMES, SGID_HOME and QUOTAUSER options were<br />&#160; deprecated for a while and got removed in this release.</p><p> -- Marc Haber &lt;mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de&gt;&#160; Mon, 19 Jan 2026 09:23:49 +0100</p></div></blockquote></div><p>thanks.</p><p>coming back to the original quesit:</p><p>when i use ssh , feel more comfortable to login via user, and proceed from there with &quot;sudo&quot; when needed; rather than as root; is this warranted behaviour or is it better to login as root user?</p><p>whenever i use root, have feeling things could break more easily, maybe from experience.</p><p>thanks.thanks.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (kapqa)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=65565#p65565</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>As far as the changes to sudo, what systems would make /usr/local/ writeable for a non-root user? That seems silly.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>my /usr/local/{bin,sbin} are owned by group staff, and group has write permission.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rbit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a blast from the past ...<br />... when Old Polack wrote it, PCLOS was really popular at the time ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Quite so ...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>greenjeans wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a brilliant guy, don&#039;t know if he&#039;s still around ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I agree.</p><p>It seems that there was a fire/accident that took down the servers and a new forum had to be set up.<br />Apparently some stuff was lost and I cannot log-in or recover my PW.<br />Will try again when I have time.</p><p>Don&#039;t understand ...<br />No reliable off-site back-ups? 8^°</p><p>In any case, Texstar [packager/main dev] posted <a href="https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6810#p6810" rel="nofollow">this</a> earlier this year. <br />Seems he does not have contact information for one of his forum&#039;s senior admins. (?)<br />Go figure ...</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 17:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know about a proper way, but on a single-user system i&#039;ve always just used su. I have right-click extensions to edit a file as root, or to open a directory as root if I need to move some files around.</p><p>As far as the changes to sudo, what systems would make /usr/local/ writeable for a non-root user? That seems silly.</p><p>@Altoid that link was a blast from the past, I remember when Old Polack wrote it, PCLOS was really popular at the time and there had been a steady influx of new users posting &quot;where&#039;s muh sudo?&quot;. OP was a brilliant guy, don&#039;t know if he&#039;s still around but I learned a lot from him.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... to run a command in /usr/local/(s)bin, you must now give the full path ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Right, thanks for that.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... have the full path to the command already in my /etc/sudoers.d/ ...</p></div></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p> ... sudo NOPASSWD set for a few commands.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is how I have it set up.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 10:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s linux. There are 10 ways to do anything. Pick one.</p><p>If you have a root account, you can su to root to do admin tasks. If you don&#039;t have a root account, you need to use sudo to do admin tasks, and in that case, you&#039;re probably a member of the sudo group and can do anything with it.</p><p>The original intent of sudo was to allow fine-grained permissions for certain users or groups to do a few specific admin tasks rather than give them total root access.</p><p>What you should not do is log into a desktop session as root.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 09:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What <strong>is</strong> the &quot;proper&quot; way to run admin tasks? For example, what &quot;should&quot; I be using to edit system-wide conf files?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mercury)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 02:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have sudo NOPASSWD set for a few commands for one user. That&#039;s all.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 01:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Changes in sudo (upstream)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wait, some of you are still using sudo?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What is says is that if you want to use sudo to run a command in /usr/local/(s)bin, you must now give the full path to the command.</p><p>What I see is that I do not have to give the full path to run the command with sudo, but maybe that&#039;s because I have the full path to the command already in my /etc/sudoers.d/usercommands. So for me, there&#039;s no change. Tested this in freia with the version of sudo mentioned above.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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