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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>user is in video group; libseat1 is installed. I think maybe it&#039;s working correctly and I&#039;m expecting something it doesn&#039;t do (user shutdown from the menu). I don&#039;t know why startxfce4 fails but startx works.</p><p>Anyway, I removed all the consolekit stuff because my goal is to check that seatd works with xlibre.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>No, mine also are grayed out for both shut down and reboot. That&#039;s why I use my custom logout script in place.</p><p>Assuming you also installed <span class="bbc">libseat1</span>, have you tried to add your user to the video group? Something like <span class="bbc">seatd -g video</span> as a superuser to fix that. I recall doing that to make Seatd work properly with X11. I have little to no issues with it. According to <span class="bbc">ps_mem.py</span>, both <span class="bbc">ck-launch-session</span> and <span class="bbc">seatd</span> are in the running processes with a graphical session.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m booting to console and running the command as user.</p><p>Oh, libconsolekit1 was missing. When I add that, all the power buttons are greyed out except &#039;log out&#039; which I guess is an improvement. They were not greyed out before and they did not work.</p><p>Adding &#039;startxfce4 --with-ck-launch&#039; to ~/.xinitrc didn&#039;t change anything. I still get the same permission error.</p><p>Running &#039;ck-launch-session startxfce4&#039; also gives the same error. </p><p>Moving ~/.xinitrc to ~/.config/xfce4 gave me the same error if I used &#039;xinit&#039; to start X, and if I used &#039;startx&#039; it starts X up to the point of giving me a black screen. At that point, the output of &#039;ps aux&#039; shows more than I have console lines of .xinitrc being run. If I put an ampersand at the end of the one line in that file, it gives me a black screen for a fraction of a second and then returns the prompt. No spamming of ps with that.</p><p>Does consolekit have its own user shutdown commands?<br />Do you have the old dbus-send commands for shutdown? I probably do, but I&#039;ll have to look around.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Are you running <span class="bbc">startxfce4 --with-ck-launch</span> directly or from its contents in your <span class="bbc">~/.xinitrc</span> file? I use Xfce, and for the latter, that always works for me. Does it sound like an issue with Seatd permissions? There&#039;s also <span class="bbc">seatd-launch</span> you could prepend to <span class="bbc">startx</span> or <span class="bbc">startxfce4 --with-ck-launch</span>. Also, for ConsoleKit2, I have the packages <span class="bbc">libck-connector0</span>, <span class="bbc">libconsolekit1</span>, and <span class="bbc">libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0</span> installed alongside of it. I do not have <span class="bbc">libpam-ck-connector</span> installed.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 18:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@brocashelm: startxfce4 doesn&#039;t work with or without ck-launch option. Just plain startx gets me to the desktop.</p><p>With startxfce4 I get the following.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Fatal server error:
parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied), maybe missing &#039;-seat seat0 -keeptty&#039; parameters? (in case trying to run uid !=0 mode)</code></pre></div><p>I think I need to consult a higher authority.</p><p>@rations: I never heard of jgmenu, thanks. It looks interesting. I could see using that in my netbook where I&#039;m using polybar (panel) that doesn&#039;t have an apps menu.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 12:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63091#p63091</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@fsmithred Have you tried jgmenu? I use it on jwm and had to add shutdown, logout buttons. In ~/.config/jgmenu&#160; had to make append.csv with&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Log Out,jwm -exit,system-log-out
Shutdown,sh -c &quot;loginctl poweroff&quot;,system-shutdown
Restart JWM,sh -c &quot;jwm -restart&quot;,reload</code></pre></div><p>This is using elogind but it might work with a different command.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rations)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s why I just use SpaceFM instead. Thunar is built to work with Udisks2, which works &quot;best&quot; with Elogind and whatnot.</p><p>If you add <span class="bbc">--with-ck-launch</span>, ConsoleKit2 will be provisioning your X11 session.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. That&#039;s similar to what I&#039;m using with the openbox menu and with some older yad-based quit menu that&#039;s laying around here somewhere. I think you have a couple commands I don&#039;t have. </p><p>The lxqt media manager isn&#039;t working, but I can mount/unmount with spacefm and pmount.<br />In xfce, thunar doesn&#039;t see the usb until it&#039;s mounted. Spacefm will mount/unmount.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 20:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have no problems shutting down or rebooting with these YAD scripts:</p><p>For <span class="bbc">~/bin/xfce4-logout</span>:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>#!/bin/bash

yad --window-icon=system-log-out --image=&quot;system-log-out&quot; \
  --title &quot;Log Out&quot; \
  --text &quot;What would you like to do?&quot; \
  --button=&quot;_Lock:0&quot; \
  --button=&quot;Log _Out:1&quot; \
  --button=&quot;S_uspend:2&quot; \
  --button=&quot;_Reboot:3&quot; \
  --button=&quot;_Shut Down:4&quot; \

ret=$?

[[ $ret -eq 4 ]] &amp;&amp; gksu poweroff
[[ $ret -eq 3 ]] &amp;&amp; gksu reboot
[[ $ret -eq 2 ]] &amp;&amp; xflock4 &amp;&amp; gksu pm-suspend
[[ $ret -eq 1 ]] &amp;&amp; killall Xorg
[[ $ret -eq 0 ]] &amp;&amp; xflock4</code></pre></div><p>For the fake <span class="bbc">/usr/local/bin/gksu</span>:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>#!/bin/sh
set -e

if [ $(id -un) = root ] ; then
    exec &quot;$@&quot;
fi

if [ &quot;$SUDO_ASKPASS&quot; = &quot;$0&quot; ] ; then
    exec yad --entry --title=&quot;PASSWORD&quot; --entry-label=&quot;$*&quot; --hide-text
fi

exec env SUDO_ASKPASS=&quot;$0&quot; sudo -A &quot;$@&quot;</code></pre></div><p>As far as drive mounting goes, no issues with Udevil&#039;s Devmon running in the background. I removed Udisks2 entirely.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (brocashelm)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, that didn&#039;t take long. I removed lxqt and install xfce. Same thing - shutdown/reboot from the menu don&#039;t work with just dummy-logind and seatd. </p><p>So then I tried installing consolekit and libpam-ck-connector. It removed a bunch of libraries and also gvfs. But it didn&#039;t remove any xfce packages. Desktop still works, shutdown/reboot still greyed out.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I tried installing consolekit and libpam-ck-connector, and it wanted to remove lxqt-powermanagement and a few other lxqt programs that I don&#039;t want to lose. So I&#039;m sticking with seatd and dummy-logind until I figure out the next thing to try. Might not be soon.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>No worries about hijacking this thread, it is primarily about Xlibre, and any and all discussion of it and also any other experimental isos. I had actually hoped to inspire more testing and experimentation by making it in the first place, and the discussion has been very productive and interesting.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (greenjeans)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>rations, thanks for the report. I get the same problem with the brightness control when I run it from a usb on my thinkpad. Meanwhile, I added redshift, and that works fine for changing brightness and screen temperature. </p><p>I don&#039;t want to hijack greenjeans&#039; thread, so I&#039;ll try to stay relevant. I made a similar iso that has xorg, and shutdown/reboot from the menu don&#039;t work there, either. So it&#039;s not an xlibre problem. Might be seatd or polkitd related.</p><p>Edit: Adding elogind and libpam-elogind fixes the shutdown problem.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 11:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Tried this it worked well. Only bug I had was changing the brightness, if that&#039;s what the icon next to the speaker is. I tried lowering it and it crashed the panel. Everything else sound, browser etc worked no problems.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rations)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Devuan Excalibur mate-mini + Xlibre!]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=63019#p63019</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@tyder: Yes.</p><p><a href="https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/refracta_14_test_xlibre_amd64-20260404_1517.iso" rel="nofollow">https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso</a></p><p>Devuan Freia (Testing) respin with xlibre, minimal lxqt, seatd (no elogind), no display manager.</p><p>Login:Password<br />user:user<br />root:root</p><p>Use startx to get the desktop.<br />Right-click on the desktop to get the openbox menu for exit/shutdown/reboot or use &#039;sudo reboot&#039; or similar.<br />Read the README. It&#039;s short.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 16:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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