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Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (Gonzalo_VC) — Wed, 22 May 2024 18:05:12 +0000

Indeed, I know the De**an philosophy is to keep safe and sound versions..The very last one is more likely to have bugs. Nevertheless, there are previous tested versions that could be used. I have a laptop with Debian and a netbook with antiX.
Cheers!

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (quickfur) — Wed, 22 May 2024 15:37:05 +0000

Yes, as exemplified by the recent liblzma/xz backdoor fiasco. The latest versions (at the time) contained the backdoor, which was subsequently removed when affected distros rolled back to a known good version.

Also keep in mind that Debian security patches are usually applied to stable first, before it lands in testing. And new versions you get outside of the Debian infrastructure may not even be patched at all. Sticking with stable is generally safer.

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (stopAI) — Wed, 22 May 2024 15:23:14 +0000

If you need to use the latest versions of programs, you can take a look at Artix linux. Keep in mind that the latest versions of programs may contain not only improvements but also bugs.

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (Andre4freedom) — Wed, 22 May 2024 14:34:32 +0000

Oh, just now I see golinux's answer. Cool.

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (Andre4freedom) — Wed, 22 May 2024 14:33:00 +0000

A true word.... Devuan may consider to just offer something like firefox-fresh or libreoffice-fresh in their repos.
It happened a few times to me that some crucial (to us) WEB-sites suddenly stop to work because of firefox-esr.
I had to download firefox from mozilla.org and install it their way, which works very well. And then, I still prefer firefox to every other browser there is.
Just a thought.

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (Gonzalo_VC) — Wed, 22 May 2024 14:31:45 +0000

OK 👍🏻 I was mistaken. Thank you!

Re: Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 22 May 2024 14:29:34 +0000

That is a Debian not a Devuan issue as most of our packages come directly from upstream. Have you checked the backports repo for newer versions?

Packages version (suggestion)

dummy@example.com (Gonzalo_VC) — Wed, 22 May 2024 12:42:52 +0000

IMHO something that Debian has failed is to offer some better versions for some packages. Yes, stability is absolutely important, but Devuan could do better in this sense. Packages like Libreoffice and Firefox have some tested versions, different from the last ("testing") launched, that can be used instead of a very old "stable" or supposedly having long term support ones.
Thanks.
Cheers!