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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49745#p49745</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thirty minutes! I had no idea I was leaving my posts unfinished for that long. I often pause to look up references, test things in the terminal, etc. before posting, as I want to make sure my posts are accurate. It&#039;s easy to get sidetracked.</p><p>I understand the reasons for the time limit, and the desire to keep the site code simple. I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a major inconvenience, I was just offering up another data point.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I write concise posts. They can take time.</p><p>(Thinking is good for you. More people should try it.)<br /><span style="color: #fcfdfe">-</span></p><p>However, I also tick the checkbox on the login page, which changes the timeout from its default (30m) to 20,160 minutes. Two weeks may be annoying when returning from holiday or occasionally using a second machine, but is plenty long enough to compose a single reply.</p><p>If using one&#039;s own device, there is no good reason not to tick that checkbox.</p><p>If on someone else&#039;s machine, a majority can <em>still</em> tick it, then simply logout manually and/or close the private browsing windows to end the session.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (boughtonp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49736#p49736</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>@Altoid . . . Perhaps a less verbose and redundant writing style would solve the problem. After all Devuanistas do tend to be minimalists!&#160; wink</p></div></blockquote></div><p>ok</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (swanson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49734#p49734</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a less verbose and redundant writing style ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Maybe.<br />And then, maybe not.</p><p>My <em>verbose and redundant writing style</em> comes from having had dedicated school teachers and my last 20+ years of professional practise in the public sector. ie: reading, proofing, vetting and as time went by authoring tender documents and technical specifications for the government.</p><p>The sort of work that, with my initials on it, ended up on a cabinet minister&#039;s desk and was usually pored through by the government&#039;s comptroller/auditor or a disgruntled bidder&#039;s legal team. </p><p>So I think it will be a <em>maybe not</em>.</p><p>That said, thank you for your input. 8^)</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49731#p49731</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Altoid . . . Perhaps a less verbose and redundant writing style would solve the problem. After all Devuanistas do tend to be minimalists!&#160; <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49730#p49730</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Bringing in javascript ...<br />... ruled out on policy grounds.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Noted.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... adding javascript only for Altoid ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Not <em>only</em> for Altoid.<br />There is at <em>least</em> one other affected poster, probably more.<br />Noted.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Other solutions are possible ...<br />... tea body count is a barrier.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Noted.<br />I did say <em>if at all possible and does not cause any issues</em> so I&#039;ll leave it to you then.</p><p>That said, I am quite aware that there are much more important things to sort out.</p><p>@golinux<br />I imagine it does not escape you that to <em>write in a text editor and c/p for final tweaks</em> totally defies the whole purpose of having a browser based system for the forum so I really don&#039;t think it is a suitable option. </p><p>But there&#039;s an uptick to this thread: now you know about the timeout.&#160; 8^D<br />As to providing a patch, I would have no idea as to where to begin.</p><p>Thank you both for your input.<br />&#160; <br />Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49726#p49726</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Altoid . . . Why not write in a text editor and c/p for final tweaks. Or provide a patch and see what rrq says . . .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49725#p49725</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Bringing in javascript so members can avoid maintaining existential presence while composing a post is ruled out on policy grounds. That includes variant solution ideas such as adding javascript only for Altoid or expanding the timer concept to make the limit a profile setting.</p><p>(Well that last one is technically ruled out by virtue of its implied complexity relative to the body count at the developer team&#039;s morning tea)</p><p>Off hand a thing one could do <em>without javascript</em> would be an automatic preview kicking in after, say, 28 minutes (by using a so called &quot;refresh tag&quot;), but that would probably be more annoying than helpful.</p><p>The idle timer is a &quot;security measure&quot; where the underlying concern is &quot;identity theft&quot; with respect to forum posts. It&#039;s a common solution: a session key cookie with time limited validity where every interaction within that time either yields a new such key or (the weaker but simpler approach) just get a validity time extension for the current session key. Other solutions are possible but the morning tea body count is a barrier.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... sorry about that ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No need to apologise.&#160; 8^)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... meant as a pun really ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>And that&#039;s the spirit it was received in. (I <em>was</em> actually about to riff on it but decided to stay on topic) <br />Rest assured that no offense was taken, none whatsoever.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... you can use the preview button to refresh the session.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, but being so meticulous is time consuming, I sometimes I forget.</p><p>If at all possible <em>and</em> does not cause any issues, could you consider extending it 10&#039; or 15&#039;?</p><p>Or maybe use a pop-up like some banks use:<br />---<br />Still there? Logging out in XX seconds.&#160; &#160; -&gt; where XX is a countdown from XX to nought.<br />---</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49718#p49718</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah; sorry about that... was meant as a pun really, and not to offend. Apologies.</p><p>The key point anyhow is that you can use the preview button to refresh the session.</p><p>regards,</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Forum timeout while logged in]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49716#p49716</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... a half-hour timeout for the idle time between interactions ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Ahh ...<br />I thought as much.</p><p>Thank you for clarifying the matter for us all.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... with any posts that have been made while you ahve been sitting there prefectering spelling.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I beg to differ.<br />It is not <em>just</em> about spelling.</p><p>There&#039;s <em>also</em> grammar, syntax, specific/proper (IT) vocabulary, punctuation, etc.<br />In short: everything Mrs. Fowler (fortunately) drilled into my head at The Priory School when I was ~10.</p><p>And then there is also the issue of my random bouts of dyslexia or the lack of a good night&#039;s sleep which do not help.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Altoid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49715#p49715</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This forum has a half-hour timeout for the idle time between interactions which separates them into sessions. If you are editing a post, you may hit preview within that half-hour so as to maintain the session without making the post. That will extend the session timer with another half-hour. It will also refresh your thread view with any posts that have been made while you ahve been sitting there prefectering spelling.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It must be a Firefox issue then, as I&#039;m having the same problem. I looked at the cookies in the Storage Inspector, but the &quot;Expiration / Max-Age&quot; is just set to &quot;Session&quot;. There didn&#039;t seem to be any way to actually change the session length.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stultumanto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=48767#p48767</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/zBPM7nbg/20.jpg" alt="20.jpg" /></span></a><br /><a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/application/cookies/" rel="nofollow">https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devto … n/cookies/</a></p><p>Same for FF<br /><a href="https://postimg.cc/WqmWHQHw" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/gjQCnpyQ/29.jpg" alt="29.jpg" /></span></a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (aluma)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2024 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>rolfie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... look at my 2 dev1galaxy cookies, no luck.<br />... tool that allows to read the contents ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Same here.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>rolfie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... is there a tool within FF that allows to read the contents?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think so, at least I have not found it.</p><p>If my memory serves me right (?) a long time ago, opening the settings page in a browser (cannot recall which one) you could see some cookie properties, one of them being their expiration date. I recall having seen cookies with a years&#039; long expiration date. (!)</p><p>Have not tried it, but see <a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1219653" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />Bear in mind that it is from 5 years ago so I don&#039;t know if it still applies.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2024 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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