I don't remember now, but it used to be (when building my own system from a netinstall) that I would install xorg and the display manager with --no-install-recommends, and the default themes weren't brought in.

I'm too Amnesiactical to remember which one actually has the themes included, nor do I know if that still applies. I haven't built a system in a long time; I just keep upgrading the ones I have.

@greenjeans . . . It's looking like there won't be any more Devuan custom themes for you to bitch about . . . so you can do a happy dance . . .   

What? Need more info!

But first let me explain about the gentlemanly art of curmudgeonry, you see, we would be miserable if we DIDN'T have something to bitch about, what good is a lawn if not for yelling at hippies to get the hell off it?

Perhaps a visual aid, this is me and The-Amnesiac-Philosopher recently, taunting Lennart Pothead as he left Redhat, telling him not to let the door hit him in the a**, just look at how happy we are:

Now what's all this about no Devuan theme?

Now maybe if there was a Package: meanlooks-dark-ornery-curmudgeon-monochromatic-theme I could get on board with that.

Package: clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-deepsea-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-lightpurpy-theme
Package: clearlooks-phenix-sapphire-theme

[...]
Welcome in quickfur !

Thanks, I feel at home already!

Whoa that's a lot of packages.  I'm guessing these are the packages that have explicit dependencies on systemd and/or related stuff?  How many of them have upstreams that have chosen to depend on systemd? I.e., we basically have to fork and maintain ourselves because upstream isn't gonna help us.  Just wondering if a good chunk of these packages just need small patches, or if the bulk of them need non-trivial work to stay systemd-free.

Welcome aboard.

Devuan is what Debian was - giving back freedom to the user.

Awesome to hear, that's exactly my original reason for going with Debian, and why over the years I became more and more disillusioned, because gradually they started taking away the user's choice. It's my personal thesis that the best technology is the one that empowers the user, rather than the authors/upstream/whoever it may be. After all, the reason for the computer's existence and the existence of software that runs on the computer is to serve the user. If we don't empower the user, we've defeated the whole purpose. What use is a tool that no longer serves its user?  The whole raison d'etre of FSF, the open source movement, etc., is the empowerment of the user, as opposed to some other entity.  Interesting (and sad) to see how people lost sight of this over the years and returned to the bad old paradigms of restricting the user and shoving things down the user's throat instead of letting the user choose for himself.

OK, I'll get off the soapbox now. :-D

One way to get a current list of forked packages is to grab the sources.gz from;  http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists … in/source/
...Then for a quick list you can just 

zcat sources.gz | grep -E '^Package:' 

...or just browse through the file for full details. (not strictly forked packages - some devuan-specific things also in there).

Or simply zgrep '^Package:' Sources.gz

One might be able to identify forked packages via the version string... zgrep --count '^Version:.*devuan' Sources.gz gives 64.

There's also an "Origin: Devuan" field which might mean something - it's present on 79 of the records.

“Do not try and bend the spoon, that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth …
There is no spoon. Then you’ll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.”
https://matrix4humans.com/matrix-spoon/

Devuan is what Debian was - giving back freedom to the user.