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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46201#p46201</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK, done it.</p><p>Removing all openjdk-8 packages allowed the certificates to auto-update &amp; be auto-removed from being held back. Now to find what is hiding that needs those jdk-8 packages!</p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code>$ sudo apt-get remove openjdk-8-*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-doc&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jdk&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jre&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-demo&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jre-headless&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-source&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jdk-headless&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Package &#039;openjdk-8-demo&#039; is not installed, so not removed
Package &#039;openjdk-8-source&#039; is not installed, so not removed
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  openjdk-8-doc openjdk-8-jdk openjdk-8-jdk-headless openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 432 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 285417 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing openjdk-8-doc (8u252-b09-1~deb9u1) ...
Removing openjdk-8-jdk:amd64 (8u252-b09-1~deb9u1) ...
Removing openjdk-8-jdk-headless:amd64 (8u252-b09-1~deb9u1) ...
Removing openjdk-8-jre:amd64 (8u252-b09-1~deb9u1) ...
Removing openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64 (8u252-b09-1~deb9u1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for doc-base (0.11.1) ...
Processing 1 removed doc-base file...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.36-9+deb12u3) ...
Processing triggers for ca-certificates-java (20230620~deb12u1) ...
done.
Processing triggers for mailcap (3.70+nmu1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.26-1) ...
$ ~/.local/sbin/update
Get:1 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt alldist InRelease [5,606 B]
Get:2 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt alldist/universe amd64 Packages [1,097 B]
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease                    
Get:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease [32.5 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease [32.5 kB]
Get:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease [32.7 kB]
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease [32.6 kB]
Fetched 137 kB in 3s (53.1 kB/s)   
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
2 packages can be upgraded. Run &#039;apt list --upgradable&#039; to see them.
W: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/dists/alldist/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ca-certificates-java josm-latest
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 15.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 ca-certificates-java all 20230710~deb12u1 [11.9 kB]
Get:2 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt alldist/universe amd64 josm-latest all 1.5.svn18911 [15.9 MB]
Fetched 15.9 MB in 5s (3,520 kB/s)      
Reading changelogs... Done
(Reading database ... 272305 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../ca-certificates-java_20230710~deb12u1_all.deb ...
Unpacking ca-certificates-java (20230710~deb12u1) over (20230620~deb12u1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../josm-latest_1.5.svn18911_all.deb ...
Unpacking josm-latest (1.5.svn18911) over (1.5.svn18907) ...
Setting up josm-latest (1.5.svn18911) ...
Setting up ca-certificates-java (20230710~deb12u1) ...
done.
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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 04:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46200#p46200</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK. I now believe it (should be) safe to remove all 1.8 java versions:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ java -version
openjdk version &quot;17.0.9&quot; 2023-10-17
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 17.0.9+9-Debian-1deb12u1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.0.9+9-Debian-1deb12u1, mixed mode, sharing)
$ update-java-alternatives -l
java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64      1111       /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64
java-1.17.0-openjdk-amd64      1711       /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.17.0-openjdk-amd64
java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64       1081       /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64</code></pre></div><p>Will removing them allow the certificates to be upgraded? Hey ho.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 04:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46199#p46199</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it *seems* that removing them all will have zero side-effects. I wonder if that is actually accurate?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt-get remove -s openjdk-8-*
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
      apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
      so don&#039;t depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-doc&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jdk&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jre&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-demo&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jre-headless&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-source&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Note, selecting &#039;openjdk-8-jdk-headless&#039; for glob &#039;openjdk-8-*&#039;
Package &#039;openjdk-8-demo&#039; is not installed, so not removed
Package &#039;openjdk-8-source&#039; is not installed, so not removed
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  openjdk-8-doc openjdk-8-jdk openjdk-8-jdk-headless openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Remv openjdk-8-doc [8u252-b09-1~deb9u1]
Remv openjdk-8-jdk [8u252-b09-1~deb9u1]
Remv openjdk-8-jdk-headless [8u252-b09-1~deb9u1]
Remv openjdk-8-jre [8u252-b09-1~deb9u1]
Remv openjdk-8-jre-headless [8u252-b09-1~deb9u1]</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46199#p46199</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46198#p46198</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the single package is the certificates, so I should be safe (?) to remove all the -8:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt-cache rdepends --installed  openjdk-8-*
openjdk-8-jre-headless
Reverse Depends:
  openjdk-8-jre
  openjdk-8-jdk-headless
  openjdk-8-jre
  openjdk-8-jdk-headless
  openjdk-8-jdk-headless
  ca-certificates-java
openjdk-8-jre
Reverse Depends:
  openjdk-8-jdk
openjdk-8-doc
Reverse Depends:
openjdk-8-jdk
Reverse Depends:
  openjdk-8-jdk-headless
  openjdk-8-doc
openjdk-8-jdk-headless
Reverse Depends:
  openjdk-8-jdk
&lt;openjdk-8-demo&gt;
&lt;openjdk-8-source&gt;</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 04:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46197#p46197</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good point, <em>delgado</em>; there is also both -11 and -17. What on earth is -8 doing in there (or, indeed, -11)?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ apt list --installed | grep openjdk

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

openjdk-11-jre-headless/now 11.0.20+8-1~deb11u1 amd64 [installed,local]
openjdk-11-jre/now 11.0.20+8-1~deb11u1 amd64 [installed,local]
openjdk-17-jre-headless/stable,stable-security,now 17.0.9+9-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
openjdk-17-jre/stable,stable-security,now 17.0.9+9-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
openjdk-8-doc/now 8u252-b09-1~deb9u1 all [installed,local]
openjdk-8-jdk-headless/now 8u252-b09-1~deb9u1 amd64 [installed,local]
openjdk-8-jdk/now 8u252-b09-1~deb9u1 amd64 [installed,local]
openjdk-8-jre-headless/now 8u252-b09-1~deb9u1 amd64 [installed,local]
openjdk-8-jre/now 8u252-b09-1~deb9u1 amd64 [installed,local]</code></pre></div><p>(I&#039;m trying to find how to find what reverse-depends on it)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46194#p46194</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a specific need for openjdk-8?<br />Maybe a newer version is already installed.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apt list --installed | grep openjdk</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 23:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46166#p46166</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m going to wait for the <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2023/12/msg00351.html" rel="nofollow">changes in Debian</a> to feed-through to Devuan. That way I do not need to pollute my already-complex sources-list.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 03:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46165#p46165</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Possibly you can installl <span class="bbc">openjdk-8-jdk-headless</span> from <span class="bbc">ceres</span> first ?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46163#p46163</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestion. The result is identical:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  openjdk-8-jdk openjdk-8-jdk-headless openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ca-certificates-java
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.9 kB of archives.
After this operation, 142 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.</code></pre></div><p>Does anyone know the way to proceed in a case like this?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46163#p46163</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46144#p46144</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code># apt dist-upgrade</code></pre></div><p>works too in such cases.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (delgado)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46144#p46144</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46125#p46125</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ inxi -b
System:
  Host: ng3 Kernel: 6.1.0-15-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce
    v: 4.18.1 Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 90BJ008CUK v: Lenovo H30-05
    serial: &lt;superuser required&gt;
  Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A v: SDK0J40700 WIN serial: &lt;superuser required&gt;
    UEFI: LENOVO v: O1WKT25AUS date: 10/29/2015
CPU:
  Info: quad core AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics [MCP]
    speed (MHz): avg: 999 min/max: 1000/2200
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] driver: radeon v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: radeon
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: KABINI ( LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 2.50
    6.1.0-15-amd64)
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: ath9k
  Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet driver: r8169
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 785.08 GiB (84.3%)
Info:
  Processes: 218 Uptime: 50m Memory: 7.18 GiB used: 2.5 GiB (34.8%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26</code></pre></div><p>Seems maybe due to bad interaction between openjdk-8-jdk &amp; the certificates. I have backports included, and that may be a causation. This is what happens if I try to update them:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>$ sudo apt install ca-certificates-java
...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  openjdk-8-jdk openjdk-8-jdk-headless openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ca-certificates-java
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.9 kB of archives.
After this operation, 142 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.</code></pre></div><p>Here a <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2023/12/msg00351.html" rel="nofollow">9 Dec post for Bookworm saying is fixed</a>. I&#039;m not certain how to proceed!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46125#p46125</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [SOLVED] Problem with ca-certificates-java]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46123#p46123</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello.</p><p>What Devuan version you are using?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (stopAI)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 12:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46123#p46123</guid>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46097#p46097</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>System upgrade for me just now, and mostly involved Chromium. However, a message that one is kept back:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>The following packages have been kept back:
  ca-certificates-java
The following packages will be upgraded:
  chromium chromium-common chromium-l10n chromium-sandbox linux-compiler-gcc-12-x86 linux-kbuild-6.1 linux-libc-dev
7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.</code></pre></div><p>I&#039;m not fully certain what is happening here, but suspect the problem has arisen at Debian&#039;s end.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (alexkemp)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2023 08:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46097#p46097</guid>
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