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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... installer has been picking up swap files from any ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think that should happen.<br />You have seen it in other (Debian based?) distributions because the installer code is common to all of them.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... put the swap on a separate HDD and really noticed ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I also did that (another life, many years ago) when I could get my hand on another HDD.<br />When memory prices dropped, things changed a bit.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The installer has been picking up swap files from any attached drive. since I remember, but also other distros I have used.</p><p>When I had windows I put the swap on a separate HDD and really noticed (benchmark-able) a speed increase.</p><p>That&#039;s all I got for now. Devuan is good.</p><p>(the second swap on my system is from a ubuntu-studio install that I&#039;m playing with)</p><p>Thank you</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (GlennW)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... comes out Like this,<br />--- snip ---<br />... did the partitioning before the installation ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I used to do it like that.<br />Every time I moved from one distribution to the next one in line.<br />I then settled on Devuan ~6 years ago.</p><p>I was very much used to /dev/sdx notation but eventually started using UUIDs.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... every time you format a partition it get a new UUID.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Indeed ...</p><p>And your fstab gets ...&#160; <em>fstabbed</em>.<br />Resulting in a warning about the system not finding a UUID, usually happens when you resize the <span class="bbc">/swap</span> partition.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>GlennW wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... used to have more separate system partitions ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The benefit of separate partitions for <span class="bbc">/home</span>, <span class="bbc">/var</span> and <span class="bbc">/swap</span> are important.<br />I also use primary partitions, easier/faster to work with than primary+extended if you don&#039;t need more than four partitions.&#160; &#160;</p><p>My box has 8.0GB RAM and the 4.0GB swap partition (in my case) practically gets no use as I have priority set to -2 (it is a small SSD).<br />Should I need more disk space I will see about a tmpfs for swap, have been puting it off for the longest time.</p><p>With respect to the reason for this thread, I think the installer is <em>not</em> working properly.</p><p>ie:<br />Once a specific drive is selected for the installation, the <em>default</em> behaviour should be that <span class="bbu">no partition</span> on any other drive be used for anything.<br />More yet, the installer should warn that a partition outside the selected installation drive will be used before continuing with the process.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It takes a few minutes to go through that part of the install session, and fstab (my files) will be ready ready for access.</p><p>I remember with one of the installers I used (ascii ?) you could cut and paste the directories.</p><p>It comes out Like this,<br />/etc/fstab</p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code># /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use &#039;blkid&#039; to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# systemd generates mount units based on this file, see systemd.mount(5).
# Please run &#039;systemctl daemon-reload&#039; after making changes here.
#
# &lt;file system&gt; &lt;mount point&gt;   &lt;type&gt;  &lt;options&gt;       &lt;dump&gt;  &lt;pass&gt;
# / was on /dev/sdc2 during installation
UUID=2f62f5a2-14f6-405d-8849-9fa7e3210d08 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
# /home was on /dev/sdc7 during installation
UUID=0bd195fc-4031-4b5c-a4c9-c807a749c60e /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
# /tmp was on /dev/sdc5 during installation
UUID=f6c50808-b2c7-4ece-8d5a-52e1fc520771 /tmp            ext4    defaults        0       2
# /usr/src was on /dev/sdc6 during installation
UUID=56eb9205-18e7-43b7-89dd-60f55a8c60cc /usr/src        ext4    defaults        0       2
# /var was on /dev/sdc3 during installation
UUID=ab8dfd96-4930-42d8-b07a-3212ab1bc60d /var            ext4    defaults        0       2
# swap was on /dev/sdc4 during installation
UUID=f0eccce4-0bf9-4238-a477-c13d46a0814d none            swap    sw              0       0
# swap was on /dev/sdd3 during installation
UUID=e1d942bf-0f66-4294-980f-293c3815ef31 none            swap    sw              0       0
# /home/glenn/local/archive was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
UUID=e5747e43-525b-4311-b53b-f66fc7b81809 /home/glenn/local/archive ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/data was on /dev/sdb2 during installation
UUID=4a130c74-c9a0-4369-af07-3f6954939073 /home/glenn/local/data ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/free was on /dev/sdb5 during installation
UUID=7c682119-06c5-4f9d-bdc2-a7c6bbddb2f7 /home/glenn/local/free ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/media/circus was on /dev/sdb7 during installation
UUID=913582e9-3f2d-40f6-8494-7136a81db07d /home/glenn/local/media/circus ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/media/movies was on /dev/sdb9 during installation
UUID=d02d15fb-b266-4fe1-bc49-d341b1984610 /home/glenn/local/media/movies ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/media/music was on /dev/sdb8 during installation
UUID=bf2c2b46-6cb1-4677-b613-b6763be457ea /home/glenn/local/media/music ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/other was on /dev/sdb1 during installation
UUID=fcf78297-e13b-4b96-9acf-8f6a5465a3eb /home/glenn/local/other ext4    defaults        0       2
# /home/glenn/local/spare was on /dev/sdb3 during installation
UUID=d2a98357-069d-420c-9722-904268da1538 /home/glenn/local/spare ext4    defaults        0       2
# mount install.iso as a directory
# /mnt/storage/debian-8.2.0-i386-CD-1.iso /mnt/debian-cd/ udf,iso9660 loop 0 0
/home/glenn/My_system/system-isos/devuan/devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230601_amd64_desktop.iso /home/glenn/local/archive/debs/iso/devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230601_amd64_desktop udf,iso9660 loop 0 0
/home/glenn/My_system/system-isos/devuan/devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230601_i386_desktop.iso /home/glenn/local/archive/debs/iso/devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230601_i386_desktop udf,iso9660 loop 0 0
# DVD burner.
/dev/sr0        /media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,auto  0       0</code></pre></div><p>a pet hate on a (brand) new SSD drive the installer auto matically selects &quot;dos mbr&quot; . </p><p>So I did the partitioning before the installation with a live devuan session.</p><p>I prefer GPT and using UUIDs. My drives change order all the time, UUIDs help.</p><p>Next... every time you format a partition it get a new UUID. So you should get one for that &quot;swap&quot; that was reformatted.</p><p>It adds a quite a bit of time to the install (and sometimes wont start) if I don&#039;t format / and /var.</p><p>This is a single user PC. </p><p>I used to have more separate system partitions, /usr /boot /usr/src /var /home </p><p>all the best.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Strange netinstall.iso behaviour]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Apparently the partitioner picks up all <span class="bbc">swap</span> partitions ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Apparently so, would have to delve further into that.<br />But ...</p><p>Remember my first post: the installer wanted to format a partiton that <span class="bbu">did not exist</span>.</p><p>Now, having 1) chosen to do an expert install, 2) selected <em>specific</em> drive to use and 3) having opted to partition it <em>manually</em>, I think that this should <em>not</em> be happening.</p><p>I did what you suggested and made sure that &quot;don&#039;t use this partition&quot; was used on <em>every</em> partition I could find that did not belong to the drive I selected for the installation and that worked.</p><p>As the other ie: <span class="bbc">/</span>, <span class="bbc">/var</span> and <span class="bbc">/home</span> partitions were already established, the installer only formatted the <span class="bbc">/swap</span> partition.</p><p>That said, why isn&#039;t <em>every</em> partition set up as &quot;don&#039;t use this partition&quot; <em>by default</em>?<br />Why does the installer pick up a <span class="bbc">/swap</span> partition from a previously unselected drive?</p><p>I don&#039;t understand what is going on, maybe a glitch or a bug? Quite worrisome, at least to me.</p><p>In any case, I stopped the installation at 32% as it had been there for well over 15&#039;. <br />I guess that installing on a 64GB USB2.0 will do that and as the damn things no longer come with the luxury of an activity LED, you really don&#039;t know if it is being written to or the install process went awry for whatever reason.</p><p>I&#039;ll try again this weekend.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=43113#p43113</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>As I said earlier, if he selects manual partitioning he should be able to do that; or change the whole layout completely. <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2023 09:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Apparently the partitioner picks up all <span class="bbc">swap</span> partitions (can&#039;t see sdg3 but taht&#039;d be another swap partition). It should be possible to avoid that by deslecting those (&quot;don&#039;t use this partition&quot;) via that previous dialog.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 23:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello fsr:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>... seen the disk order change when booting with usb ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I think that happens always.</p><p>But it does not matter here as the installation drive is easy to identify.<br />Unless I am not paying attention, the right <em>drive</em> will be formatted and receive the installation.</p><p>The problem (as I see it) is that the installer wants to muck around with <em>other</em> drives and in ways that don&#039;t make sense.<br />eg: formatting an inexistent partition. (?)</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ralph.ronnquist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>How does the dialog before that one look?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Here it is:</p><p><a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/CL8s1sJh/previous-3.jpg" alt="previous-3.jpg" /></span></a></p><p>The installation drive (USB stick) is correctly identified (VendorCo ProductCode), is the correct size (62.9GB) and is where it should be (SCSI9 /dev/sdd).</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve seen the disk order change when booting with usb in some cases such that what was /dev/sda when booting from internal drive is called some other device name in the installer.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Camtaf wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Partition your disk manually ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is <em>exactly</em> what I am doing.</p><p>Thanks for your input.<br />Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Partition your disk manually, seems to be an option, so I&#039;d take a look at that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>How does the dialog before that one look?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p><p>Having come to my senses, I went ahead and did it right way.&#160; 8^°</p><p>I burned the netinstall.iso to a 2.0Gb MicroSD card to install to the previously used 64Gb USB2.0 stick.<br />During the installation I chose to delete everything on the stick so it would start anew.</p><p>But I got the <em>same</em> behaviour from the installer:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Altoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>eg: the installer informing me that ...<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; - it would format partitions in drives that <em>don&#039;t</em> belong to the drive previously selected for the installation.<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; ie: drive selected is <span class="bbc">/dev/sdc</span> but it informs that it will format partition #3 in <span class="bbc">/dev/sdb</span></p><p>&#160; &#160; &#160; - it would format an <em>inexistent</em> partition.<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; ie: drive <span class="bbc">/dev/sdf</span> does <em>not</em> have a partition #3</p></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/6Qkx8nvd/netinst-2.jpg" alt="netinst-2.jpg" /></span></a></p><p>Any idea as to what is happening?<br />Why would the installer want to muck around with a drive <em>not</em> selcted for installation?</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello fsr:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Live isos can boot the entire iso into RAM.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Add &quot;toram&quot; or maybe &quot;toram=filesystem.squashfs&quot; to the boot command for a live-usb ...<br />... that way might allow you to install over the imaged usb, but then you have to get it right the first time ...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s a good idea.<br />Have to get it right the first time around.</p><p>Thanks for your input.</p><p>Best,</p><p>A.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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