Hmm.. not vaporware... no.

They are still working on it... thing is, the alpha iso itself isnt even out yet.

They could use some help lately... hence why I brought this up.

Actually,  like the poster before me just said Parabola is an arch-fork.

However, Hyperbola was its own thing, a hard fork of arch linux with debian patches for stability privacy/security and long term support.

That being said, they could use donations and help in general right now, due to the lack of devs and help as a whole...

Luke the uxp developer, has been... away for the time being, related to some management issue that Hyperbola was willing to address, but... problem being, he isn't answering any  email messages, so... yeah.

It is a truly unfortunate situation.

The good news, being, they are still trying to do so.

https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:manual:contrib:hyperbola_roadmap

They could move faster if they got more help, also... you could potentially make a fork of devuan off of it, for whatever purpose you wanted.

PS, wine no longer interests me... at all.

My reason for wanting a fork, would be to increase devs willing to help... and to get the stable iso finally finished.

That being said,  help would be appreciated for them.

Didn't Hyperbola morph into Parabola. Or was it the other way around? This thought just from a vague memory . . .

Looks like Parabola is an Arch-fork.

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=parabola

I think Hyperbola was similar, perhaps parallel.

This new thing is supposed to be a complete switch to BSD from Linux.

My thought was that BSD is somewhat unfamiliar to would-be hackers and might reduce the number of potential troublemakers for a server.

https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:project:downloads

"en/project/downloads.txt · Last modified: 2022/08/02 23:22 by emulatorman"

"Permission Denied
Sorry, you don't have enough rights to continue."

And, why is there no mention of Hyperbola-BSD on their Information or FAQ pages?

It's very weird ...

"en/project/downloads.txt · Last modified: 2022/08/02 23:22 by emulatorman"

EDIT

It seems that Hyperbola-BSD may have become vaporware.

In any case it would seem, based on the difficulty in location anything recent, that support would be nearly non-existent.

Back to my other thread about a Devuan Raid1 install ...

zapper wrote:

Hence why I usually don't use devuan and instead use Hyperbola which finally removed all this crud,

Actually, xorg and wayland while both being bad, have an alternative, its called xenocara.

I cannot find Hyperbola-BSD anywhere.

I do find Hyperbola-Linux.

Did the BSD version get canceled and they stayed with the Linux kernel after all?

I'm pretty sure I have test driven Hyperbol BSD...

I saw this just now... "The developers cite the Linux kernel's adoption of Digital Restrictions Management (DRM), use of the Rust programming language and forced adoption of features in common GNU/Linux components like PulseAudio and systemd as reasons for abandoning Linux and the ecosystem around it.

written by 윤채경 (Yoon Chae-kyung)  2012-12-24 - last edited 2019-12-26. © CC BY "
ref. https://linuxreviews.org/HyperBola_Linux_Ditches_Linux,_Goes_All-In_BSD

last edited 2019...

I like their direction... I've had FreeBSD-12.1 installed... but I ended up using proprietary drivers anyway and had kde5/Plasma looking and behaving the same as my Dev-1 system.

Hence why I usually don't use devuan and instead use Hyperbola which finally removed all this crud,

Actually, xorg and wayland while both being bad, have an alternative, its called xenocara.

I cannot find Hyperbola-BSD anywhere.

I do find Hyperbola-Linux.

Did the BSD version get canceled and they stayed with the Linux kernel after all?

xorg, too big and bloated, but mostly works fine for most things

wayland an unstable mess that has too small of a protocol, but will probably get bloated down the road.

Two things can be true at the same time anyhow.

Both of these aren't very good, especially the replacement, which will likely make it even *harder* to escape systemd, dbus and all that other crap.

The solution?

I still think xenocara is a better move to make in my opinion, it has a lot better privilege separation then xorg and wayland, without being huge, broken and having way too many dependencies that will likely be impossible to remove.

That being said, its usually better not to trust the developer on their word alone, without having a varying of tests, by many people and then see verification.

Although, older hardware, will probably not work as well with it, which will matter to coreboot users and maybe people who disable intel me.

Actually, I used devuan at one point with kernel 5.19 on a coreboot device with intel me disabled the 5.19.89 linux-libre-lts one.

Strangely enough, tried using it on my X230 and T430i,  after 30 minutes on each of them, it just freezes and you have to shut it down by force.

Weird stuff...

Did this with a usb installed image tho, as in it was installed on the usb.

Weird thing is, never had this problem before, till 5.19 kernel.

Point being, not sure what is going on, but be careful!

Under a lot of stress
Maintaining the GNU version, till the first stable is out, possibly longer, so they are maintaining two different forms of infrastructure for two operating systems
I think the impaired ISO might also have some bad dependencies? I forget...

They are not against anyone willing to help develop tho,  but time is also a factor.
Most development is being used to focus on HyperbolaBSD.

Small team
etc...

EDIT:

And those focused on the 0.4.2 Hyperbola GNU version, are already occupied alot.

But if you want to add the impaired support, I am sure they would accept help.

Unless, someone fixed it already. Not sure tho

@zapper You just saved me lots of time, omg, I didn't know Rust had trademark issues, I will have to rethink even learning Rust. Wayland I now see is a flop. And jwm looks beautiful, tinyx is cool. Hyperbola BSD?! I have to try it. I might have to get hardware that supports it... So glad that some smart people are carrying the flame.

I hope we can bring the accessibility apps with us.

Oh nice! Hyperbola has support for vision impaired users!

I  should have said this before...

But yeah, I agree with that comment that the  devo that blog made.

Unless corporations want their systems to get fried by every malevolent hacker under the sun...

Given the buggy nature, just overloading the system should be enough to crash it...

I highly doubt malevolent hackers couldn't break that.

I guess whoever made wayland can congratulate itself on making something as bad as systemd in stability...

meh...

Counter opinion from the original developer of wlroots (one of the three main Wayland compositors available):

Wayland Misconceptions Debunked

EDIT: and since when did having an opinion count as "shilling"? FFS...

The amount of shilling for Wayland is preposterous, particularly by those who use distros without Systemd. I also think that D-Bus, Polkit (formerly PolicyKit), GVfs, Avahi, and PulseAudio being forced onto essential packages is every bit as bad. I remove what I can before ending up with a broken, unusable system (especially in D-Bus' case). Even things like Elogind are not what I desire, but it is what it is.

I can't speak for everyone, but I dislike the following;

dbus
systemd
pulseaudio
avahi
networkmanager
logind
polkit
pipewire
wayland
java
rust
pam
bloatware in general...

Hence why I usually don't use devuan and instead use Hyperbola which finally removed all this crud,

Actually, xorg and wayland while both being bad, have an alternative, its called xenocara. 

The only problem being, the linux devs seem to be shrooming more and more with their designs.

I think microsoft, apple, google, etc are all indeed disasters and have evil intentions, but...

I honestly think redhat has changed the game even more...

I think its no longer EEE as a plan,

I think it is now, EETFC

Embrace
Extend
Take Full Control

I wouldn't be surprised if that is redhat's plan at this juncture...  even more so with IBM being in the mix, aka owning redhat now... 

Btw,  if I recall correctly, xenocara already does a few things wayland does, regarding being a rootless xorg and in the case of OpenBSD, privledge separation..

I don't really get why people shill for anything redhat makes in general though.

There are alternatives that don't force crap down people's throats, ya know?

Besides, gnome3 and its forks are bloated beyond words, in fact the only desktop environment not bloated its lumina desktop.

But as always, I will use jwm, till I feel like there is something lighter that has the same feature set.