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			<title><![CDATA[Re: msi quirk detected; hang on boot]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is definitely a hang.&#160; I allow it to sit for a very long time.&#160; &#160;You can&#039;t use ssh or a console screen this early in the boot.</p><p>My preference is to be very specific and detailed.&#160; People who want to help will appreciate this.&#160; &#160;Most times, omitting details will result in respondents asking for them anyway.&#160; &#160;Also, it is difficult to describe this concisely given the multiple aspects of the environment this problem arises in.&#160; &#160;I do respect your opinion, however, and thank you for your help.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2021 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: msi quirk detected; hang on boot]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>systemdlete wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>a hang</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Are you sure? Did you try using <span class="bbc">ssh</span> or booting to a console screen to check if it&#039;s not just a failure of the graphical desktop?</p><p>Pro tip: your OP is too prolix. A more concise description of the problem might help.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2021 09:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[msi quirk detected; hang on boot]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>While booting one particular PC, I get an error &quot;msi quirk detected&quot; which is followed by a hang.&#160; I found out that msi means message sequence interrupt, which is part of the hardware technology used to make processing more efficient.&#160; The message appears after the grub menu when the video does a screen clear (and I think changes the font and such).&#160; I do not see this with my other PCs which are also hooked up through this same FJGEAR keyboard-video-mouse-switch (&quot;KVMS&quot;).&#160; &#160;This occurs when trying to boot this box with a Devuan Chimaera thumb drive, as well as an older Devuan which is installed on that PC.&#160; This machine used to boot properly (into Jessie or Ascii, as well as some other distros).&#160; All of them fail now after the screen clear, sometimes halting at the blank screen and other times halting after the msi quirk detected error.</p><p>In order to analyze this, I unhooked the machine from the KVMS and placed it on a table that I use as a sort of &quot;bread board&quot; layout.&#160; I have additional power supplies, keyboard, mouse, etc. there; there is no KVMS there, however.&#160; Also, the video connection is VGA there because I use an older terminal for hardware testing.&#160; I found that booting the machine, which had not been turned on for at least a year or so, was a bit random -- sometimes it would boot, other times not.&#160; I went about eliminating possible issues.&#160; I did replace a SATA cable and moved the hard drive to a different location inside the box.&#160; &#160;These steps seem to have helped somewhat, and the PC began to boot reliably each time, not getting stuck at the &quot;msi quirk detected&quot; error.&#160; &#160;I believed I had resolved the issue.&#160; I could boot the box from the internal hard drive or from a thumb drive consistently.</p><p>I moved the box back to the normal place and hooked it back up to the KVMS.&#160; &#160;The error message appeared again upon boot.&#160; This got me to thinking about a posting I read while browsing for the mentioned error message.&#160; It said that it could have something to do with the USB subsystem.&#160; &#160;One solution is to disable legacy USB, so I tried that.&#160; The problem immediately became clearer to me:&#160; The KVMS is USB (and HDMI), and likely one of the older USB standards.&#160; So I had to re-enable the legacy USB which allowed me to at least have keyboard functionality.</p><p>I think the problem may be with the mainboard, which is a 760GM-P23 (ironically, this board is manufactured by MSI, which has nothing to do with the &quot;msi quirk detected&quot; problem reported by the boot; the naming is just coincidental, though maybe the manufacturer is using the technological term for marketing).&#160; The board is also denoted as &quot;MSI 7641.&quot;&#160; &#160;The board clearly continues to work, as I am able to fully boot it&#160; with VGA.&#160; The board has VGA and DVI but not HDMI.&#160; &#160;I use a DVI/HDMI converter when the box is connected to the KVMS.&#160; Nominally, the configuration works, but somehow this board does not seem to enjoy talking to the keyboard through my switch sometime after the initial screen blanking.</p><p>There are lots of posts about this online, but most of them are more than 10 years old; I would think this issue had long since been addressed in recent kernels.&#160; This is (was) a popular board so its chipset should have made it into the kernel blacklist by now.&#160; &#160;The solutions suggested (if any) don&#039;t seem to help with my specific board.&#160; There are some more recent posts, but I found them to be in the context of other issues.&#160; I note that kernel mailing list discussions about msi date back as early as the mid-2000s, so the devs were tackling that already.</p><p>Since my other PCs work reliably enough through the same KVMS, I am leaning toward the board or the kernel or both not being capable of handling the switch traffic after some point in the boot process.&#160; This is only my guess though -- I am really not much of a hardware guru, and I have not studied Linux internals deeply (though I have plenty of Unix internals study behind me).</p><p>One other thing to note is that I vaguely recall that many years ago when this board was in a different case and I was using it as my primary machine, I had run into a similar problem when trying to install an early version of (I think it was) Mageia.&#160; I forget what the resolution was now, but I think it had been corrected with a subsequent release.&#160; I haven&#039;t used this box in some time, but it appears to run fine, overall, and the problem may be innate to that particular model/chipset.</p><p>I have some other boards here I could use, but they are new and I&#039;d prefer to save those for my other machines as their hardware needs replacement.&#160; &#160;I run some older generation, Athlon II and FX8350 amd3 platform kit.&#160; Since the market for those is kind of long past, it is becoming increasingly harder to find replacement parts... at reasonable prices.&#160; I have been slowly stockpiling older parts as I find them.&#160; I know that I will eventually have to upgrade to more recent generation hardware, but I like using what I already have for the time being.</p><p>I might just be running into the problems of using older hardware, but I&#039;m not sure.&#160; &#160;I am hoping someone knows of a kernel patch or some additional options I can try.&#160; So far, I have tried passing pci=nomsi, acpi=off, noapic, and combinations thereof with the msi quirk message and hang still occurring.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2021 08:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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