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Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:17:39 +0000

No more freezes. Solution once again:

Got rid of all nvidia & nouveau stuff by purge.

Manually installed nvidia 470 driver from nvidia.de download. No remarkable tearing even without composite option.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 17:58:25 +0000

Tried nouveau. Horrible tearing.

Got rid of all nvidia & nouveau stuff by purge.

Manually installed nvidia 470 driver from nvidia.de download. No remarkable tearing even without composite option.

No freeze overnight.

Now I'll observe it some more days before setting to solved.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:16:24 +0000

Unfortunately another freeze occured.

Next trial will be nouveau driver.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 20:53:16 +0000

Look at my post from 2021-11-02 07:25:11. Those were all logs with entries around freezing time.

With XFCE no freeze occured within 31 hours. I'll keep on observing but set it for now to [SOLVED]. I hope I won't have to change that.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:00:02 +0000

felixed wrote:

Is there a way to display all system or Xorg actions?

Check the logs.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 09:05:55 +0000

Update: No freeze with XFCE4 yet.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Tue, 02 Nov 2021 20:52:16 +0000

Nouveau is the next trial on my list. At present I'm testing xfce desktop environment (don't ask me why, there's no logical reason for it).

Is there a way to display all system or Xorg actions? Just to remind that: the sound ist still working, programs continue, cronjobs are started ... only the display shows the content of freeze time and mouse / keyboard input to the session does not work, but to sysrq does.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Tue, 02 Nov 2021 16:27:27 +0000

If in doubt blame the blob. Does the system freeze with nouveau?

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Tue, 02 Nov 2021 07:25:11 +0000

Bad news: The system froze again tonight around 4:22 h. So it was not SLIM.

The /var/log/messages says

(...)
Nov  1 20:20:55 chimaera015 kernel: [ 9323.141551] si2157 4-0060: firmware version: 3.0.5
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773470] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:09:00: GPU-7f274aab-9a33-6061-6f5a-cf042b345839
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773474] NVRM: GPU Board Serial Number: 
Nov  2 06:46:40 chimaera015 kernel: [46868.118356] sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled.
Nov  2 06:46:48 chimaera015 kernel: [46876.286221] sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled.

The last 2 messages are from shutdown by Magic SysRQ.

The /var/log/syslog says

(...)
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773470] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:09:00: GPU-7f274aab-9a33-6061-6f5a-cf042b345839
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773474] NVRM: GPU Board Serial Number: 
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773476] NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:09:00): 62, pid=1646, 21a5(31e8) 0501199c 18512808
(...)

/var/log/kern.log

(...)
Nov  1 20:20:55 chimaera015 kernel: [ 9323.141551] si2157 4-0060: firmware version: 3.0.5
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773470] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:09:00: GPU-7f274aab-9a33-6061-6f5a-cf042b345839
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773474] NVRM: GPU Board Serial Number: 
Nov  2 04:22:04 chimaera015 kernel: [38191.773476] NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:09:00): 62, pid=1646, 21a5(31e8) 0501199c 18512808
Nov  2 06:46:40 chimaera015 kernel: [46868.118356] sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled.
Nov  2 06:46:48 chimaera015 kernel: [46876.286221] sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled.

XID 62 is "Internal micro-controller halt" (https://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/xid-erro … ml#topic_4)

/var/log/daemon.log, auth.log, Xorg.0.log: no events around 4:22h.

GPU temperature was 39°C at freeze.

So, that's all information I could get.

Any ideas?

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (Head_on_a_Stick) — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 16:20:17 +0000

felixed wrote:

But it would not explain why the freeze doesn't happen in ASCII but in it's upgrade to Beowulf - Chimaera.

Yes it would—the newer login session protocols are no longer supported by SLiM, which has been dead upstream since 2013...

EDIT: report this to Devuan as a bug, they need to drop SLiM.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 12:01:53 +0000

Update: After changing to lightdm no freeze overnight. I'll look at it some more days, then set it (hopefully) to solved.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:17:26 +0000

I'll give it a try. But it would not explain why the freeze doesn't happen in ASCII but in it's upgrade to Beowulf - Chimaera.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (rolfie) — Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:08:11 +0000

Try to replace slim (no more developed) with lightdm. I am running that on a 3700X.

rolfie

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (felixed) — Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:19:41 +0000

At freezing time my CPU usage is low, same as memory (usually it happens while recording something overnight). Recording is continued, even new recordings are started after freeze. So I could run a logging program on the system itself and read it from another installation on the same computer.

Caps/Num/Scroll Lock keys are not working. I wonder why Magic SysRQ keys do.

Once the mouse pointer was still working on one of the monitors, but with no response to mouse keystrokes.

It seems to be an xorg crash cutting off all I/O devices.

Re: [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII

dummy@example.com (chris2be8) — Sun, 31 Oct 2021 16:55:59 +0000

100% CPU busy.

Do Caps/Num/Scroll lock turn the relevant LEDs on and off on the keyboard?

Try logging on via ssh from another system and running top. When you get the next hang it should show you what was using the CPU.