So in what way does the Linux kernel follow the Unix principle of "do one thing and do it well"?

Do you not agree that the kernel is even more monolithic and bloated than systemd?

Well that is as what the op mentions as apples vs oranges. Systemd is not a kernel?

Do you not agree that the kernel is even more monolithic and bloated than systemd?

dice wrote:

the project lacks a serious amount of documentation

I don't think so:

$ apropos systemd | wc -l
188
$

The man pages are extensive and comprehensive. See also https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/

So are the issues.. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issu … s%3Aclosed

^ I said I didn't want to start an argument

Can we try to stay on topic? What do you think about the comment described in the OP?

I would liken systemd to svchost.exe to answer your question

Can we try to stay on topic? What do you think about the comment described in the OP?

The Linux kernel is an example of a monolithic kernel, which can be contrasted with the microkernel paradigm.

And just to note that "GNU" stands for "GNU's Not Unix" — Linux has never really adhered to UNIX principles anyway. I would also mention that systemd is actually very modular in it's design with *many* compilation and configuration options that can be used to filter out unwanted functionality and also that systemd offers a unified collection of userspace control programs that is *very* similar to the way that all of the true UNIX® systems work but I wouldn't want to start an argument

http://soggywizards.com/tips/code/os/in … -bad-ugly/

the project lacks a serious amount of documentation

I don't think so:

$ apropos systemd | wc -l
188
$

The man pages are extensive and comprehensive. See also https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/

If the user is in the sudo group then machinectl(1) can be used to open a root shell with the user's password, which can also be achieved with sudo(8). If the user isn't in the sudo group then any attempt to open a root shell with machinectl(1) is refused unless the root password is supplied.

machinectl

Its been awhile since i was on a systemd controlled machine, but from memory the user is able to gain su privilege with machinectl shell providing no password? Or has this behavior changed?

imho, I thought it, systemd stepped outside the FOSS agreement(?)/standards because the source code was not readily readable by a human.

readable perhaps...

You might mean not understandable, the project lacks a serious amount of documentation.

the source code was not readily readable by a human

That's off topic for this thread but just sounds like complete nonsense. Do you have a citation for that?

The systemd code base is licensed under the GPL[0][1] so it does conform to the FSF guidelines[2][3][4].

Well I would agree with the comment, yes. But I'm no expert so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, you are more of an expert than I am. But, I'd like to hear what others have to say.