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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26848#p26848</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have corrected how symbols displayed in chvt 0 terminal by executing following command:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>dpkg-reconfigure console-setup</code></pre></div><p>and by selecting UTF-8 on the first page, and then my national specific option on the next page, and then Terminus (though others work too) font on the third page.</p><p>After that ls and mc displays correct characters in text terminal.</p><p>And IMHO oldstable Devuan ASCII upgraded to backports is very stable and nice :b</p><p>And Devuan is the best universal Linux distribution suitable for physical hosts. <br />I would run other distros only in its virtual machines.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26845#p26845</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Does someone sponsor support work?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I sometimes get a doughnut from golinux, they know how grumpy I get when I&#039;m hungry.</p><p>But seriously, thanks for your kind words :-)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26844#p26844</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I will mention my backported dist-upgrade status in my further requests. Thank you very much for your help.</p><p>We get answers here so quickly and they are very helpful and professional.</p><p>Does someone sponsor support work? I have seen many support replies during my life, and it sometimes takes much more time to get even an answer for expensive proprietary software issues those are much easier.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 19:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26840#p26840</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Yes, it is after dist-upgrade -t=ascii-backports</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Please be sure to mention this in any future support requests to prevent wasting the time of the people who chose to help you. Thanks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26839#p26839</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And I have to ask: is this from your box that has been <span class="bbc">dist-upgrade</span>d from the backports repository?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yes, it is after dist-upgrade -t=ascii-backports </p><p><img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Do you think nodm produces mentioned above problems only in a backported system like mine?</p><p>I am still not motivated for a downgrade anyway, just replaced nodm with slim, and almost everything is OK again.</p><p>People live and work on Ceres and it is fine for them generally.</p><p>As for me it is important to avoid significant configuration changes which is very seldom even with any and all backports installed on oldstable.</p><p>Though I still have to find a solution for text mode national symbols displayed incorrectly (only in Alt+F1..F6 terminal screens), I even did not pay attention to it earlier, may be before backports it was broken the same way.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 17:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26835#p26835</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>There are some fields still blank</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is expected — LANGUAGE is a (GNU-specific) override and LC_ALL should *not* be set (as I have already explained).</p><p>I&#039;ve just tried Debian&#039;s live KDE image and the <span class="bbc">locale</span> output in konsole is exactly the same as the output you have posted from the TTY.</p><p>Edit <span class="bbc">/etc/default/locale</span> if you have specific requirements or export the parameters from <span class="bbc">~/.profile</span> and source that file from <span class="bbc">~/.xsessionrc</span> to make sure it is read from any and all display managers.</p><p>See also <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Locale" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.debian.org/Locale</a></p><p>And I have to ask: is this from your box that has been <span class="bbc">dist-upgrade</span>d from the backports repository?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26825#p26825</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>After purging locales, installing this package once again and reconfiguring it for EN_US.UTF-8<br />I see several problems now:</p><p>1) In text terminal Alt+F1:<br />There are some fields still blank:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_NUMERIC=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_TIME=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_COLLATE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MONETARY=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MESSAGES=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_PAPER=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_NAME=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_ADDRESS=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_TELEPHONE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MEASUREMENT=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_IDENTIFICATION=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_ALL=</code></pre></div><p>Specifically LANGUAGE= and LC_ALL= are blank.</p><p>Also in text terminal I see a font which displays national symbols only partially while replacing about a half of them by a búbi character.<br />I guess I have to replace used font somehow?</p><p>2) During my last upgrade a few days ago I have replaced TDM display manager by nodm, and it seems nodm wipes out all localization fields.<br />Now I have replaced nodm by slim and at least I see in all terminals the same output of locales command which I see in text terminal described above in 1)</p><p>Btw, after replacing nodm by slim a few minutes ago I have correct working of all terminals in the desktop environment, all of them display mc and national symbols well. If I would not check specially I would not even notice that LANGUAGE= and LC_ALL=&#160; fields became blank.</p><p>Can you please let me know which script sets values for all LC_* fields from what I specified during re-configuring locales packages?<br />For now I would like to try at least to recover values for LANGUAGE= and LC_ALL= fields, how to do this?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26823#p26823</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And perhaps your locales are mis-configured so try</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># dpkg-reconfigure locales</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>Sure, I tried it several times earlier, it does not help at all, I even tried reinstalling different versions of this package and then reverted its version back.</p><p>I guess I have to leave the desktop environment and try to recover a good configuration of locales in a general text console at first at Alt+F1.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 12:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Is it correct?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m not sure (I don&#039;t use Plasma or Qt in general) but I think <span class="bbc">LANGUAGE</span> should be under <span class="bbc">[Translations]</span> and I know you shouldn&#039;t be setting <span class="bbc">LC_ALL</span>, just leave that one alone.</p><p>You could also try exporting the various locale settings via <span class="bbc">~/.xsessionrc</span> but that seems very hacky.</p><p>And perhaps your locales are mis-configured so try</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># dpkg-reconfigure locales</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 12:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another problem appeared, even in other terminals locales became broken, I have already even removed ~/.config/plasma-localerc<br />and restarted Trinity:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=
LC_NUMERIC=
LC_TIME=
LC_COLLATE=
LC_MONETARY=
LC_MESSAGES=
LC_PAPER=
LC_NAME=
LC_ADDRESS=
LC_TELEPHONE=
LC_MEASUREMENT=
LC_IDENTIFICATION=
LC_ALL=</code></pre></div><p>Two new problems:<br />1) locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory<br />2) Most fields became empty in non KDE terminals the same way as in KDE konsole</p><p>Something goes wrong <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>I even cannot revert back without rollback. Will try to see zfs diff.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is it correct?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>cat ~/.config/plasma-localerc
[Formats]
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_NUMERIC=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_TIME=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_COLLATE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MONETARY=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MESSAGES=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_PAPER=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_NAME=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_ADDRESS=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_TELEPHONE=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_MEASUREMENT=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_IDENTIFICATION=&quot;en_US.UTF-8&quot;
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8</code></pre></div><p>The problem is still there <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I have created a file:<br />[...]<br />The problem is still there</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m not surprised — you&#039;ve only specified a single element. Try adding all of the missing <span class="bbc">LC_whatever</span> settings to the file.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have created a file:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>cat ~/.config/plasma-localerc
[Formats]
LANG=en_US.UTF-8</code></pre></div><p>The problem is still there <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>But at least I know a direction where to search for a solution, it is somewhere a KDE personal locales config.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bimon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I cannot find a plasma related locales config file</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Try creating one yourself with the desired settings then (as suggested in the linked ArchWiki page).</p><p>Also check for <span class="bbc">~/.config/plasma-locale-settings.sh</span>, that can also change the locale configuration.</p><p>The Plasma utilities will expect their configuration to be managed by the Plasma configuration GUI so if you&#039;re using them elsewhere then some fiddling is to be expected.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Locales are broken in KDE5 konsole]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26813#p26813</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p><a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE#Plasma_desktop_does_not_respect_locale/language_settings" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KD … e_settings</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for trying to help me, but I cannot find a plasma related locales config file:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>find ~ -name plasma-localerc

find ~ -name \*locale\*</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2021 11:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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