https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12 … -in-linux/

https://twitter.com/alyssarzg/status/14 … 1058194436

The display driver works and will be added to the mainline kernel in due course.

EDIT: and the developer runs a dwm desktop. Nice.

Micronaut wrote:

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel?

Fuck yes. Intel have contributed a huge amount to Linux, Apple are a bunch of twats.

I would say that what you just said here, is too kind to apple, they are much worse than that...

They are like google, only less dangerous.

I say less dangerous, because their changes dont have any effect on other hardware other than apple approved hardware.

Thus, Google is still 2x worse at least due to their stuff getting engrained in so many things.

Although Redhat is just as bad as Apple due to their sneaky methods of forcing systemd and other crap down peoples' throats.

Just my two cents.

Linux will gain some M1 support for v5.13:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … 9e9ceffe13

Indeed, but it is still precarious support..
But is better than nothing.. with time I believe support will come,
The Graphics driver will be the most difficult challenge..

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke … 9e9ceffe13

Too busy grabbing stuff from the bsd'ers

Speaking of which, the OpenBSD devs have managed to get their operating system booting on the M1 in multi-user mode:

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-arm&m=161386122115249&w=2

Micronaut wrote:

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel?

Fuck yes. Intel have contributed a huge amount to Linux, Apple are a bunch of twats.

Too busy grabbing stuff from the bsd'ers and repaying their kindness by donating literal pennies to their projects. Got to love non-copyleft licenses, trillionaires enriching themselves off the free labor of impoverished volunteers. Apple can't be bothered with copyleft code that would actually require them to share their changes.

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel?

Fuck yes. Intel have contributed a huge amount to Linux, Apple are a bunch of twats.

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel? It was sheer accident that IBM created a generic enough machine in their first PC that it could be cloned and actual competition became possible in the computer market. Apple has been much more careful, but still has not been able to totally control their hardware. We've had 'Boot Camp' for the Intel-based MACs since about a year after they appeared. I would hope and expect that something similar will be available for their ARM-based machines soon. It might be Android and Linux rather than Windows, but there will be fully functional OSes for these machines other than Apple's proprietary walled-garden.

I don't see Apple hate. I mean, other than HOAS literally dancing on Steve Jobs' grave. I just see a bunch of people noting that the hardware is normally underwhelming and overpriced, and that Apple makes poor software decisions that routinely make their own OS run slower on their own hardware than installing a distro on it. And benchmarks have repeatedly proven that all of this is completely true.

Also I see comments that most Apple users buy their hardware for status rather than any real benefit. Which is also obviously true, although there are probably some exceptions.

Stating the truth is not hate, even if the truth is unfavorable to something for which you are a fan.

Also, your IBM PC "sheer accident" cloning story is untrue. Open architecture and standardized, vendor-tested technology was an intentional part of the original design. https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibit … birth.html

steve_v wrote:

I'm not a hippie, and I don't eat my toenails in public...

I only trust code from toenail eating hippies. The toenail eating has to be certified and audited.

Okay, that sounds weird... 

I would be suspicious of people who eat their own toenails  because you would have to be crazy to do that.

Thus, they might have brain problems...  and well ya...

I'm not a hippie, and I don't eat my toenails in public...

I only trust code from toenail eating hippies. The toenail eating has to be certified and audited.

Good post steve_v, you summarized in depth what i was struggling to put into my post.

Yeah, what he said is true. I myself prefer ditching proprietary hardware when possible.

Otherwise it dies fast and it leaks an insane amount of information. 

Anything that is proprietary should not have any secrets on it.  Meaning stuff your not willing to let out to the world.

Because proprietary is insecure and invasive by default and sometimes even, no matter what...

https://corellium.com/blog/linux-m1

An Ubuntu variant, unfortunately, but it's a start.

you summarized in depth what i was struggling to put into my post.

Yours was more succinct.

TBH I just felt like a good rant, I'm getting kinda annoyed with all the "apple this, zoom that, steam the other thing" noise in FOSS channels at the moment.