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			<title><![CDATA[Re: KISS: a new systemd-free distribution that aims to "keep it simple"]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The official Tiny Core Linux wiki is down. Developers are aware and working on it. In the meantime, wiki can be accessed via this mirror:<br /><a href="https://www.linuxsecrets.com/tinycorelinux-wiki/wiki:start.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.linuxsecrets.com/tinycoreli … start.html</a></p><p>Their forum is alive and well:<br /><a href="http://forum.tinycorelinux.net" rel="nofollow">http://forum.tinycorelinux.net</a></p><p>Main reason to strip binaries is to make them smaller (I&#039;ve sometimes seen them shrink to 50-75% of original size). TCL packages contain stripped binaries in the interest of keeping everything as tiny as possible.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: KISS: a new systemd-free distribution that aims to "keep it simple"]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GNUser wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Cool! I love distros like this. Thanks for pointing it out.</p><p>Tiny Core Linux, which I have grown to really appreciate, has some similarities: SNIP</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Extra diff to yours&#160; in the build that appears to say</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p># Disable stripping (add this only if needed)</p></div></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://k1ss.org/package-system" rel="nofollow">https://k1ss.org/package-system</a></p><p>while TC nearly always requires stripping.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>*.a *.h *.la *.m4 *.pc -&gt; dev extension (after --strip-debug) <br />*.so* -&gt; main extension (after --strip-unneeded)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The TC official wiki appears down ATM.<br /><a href="http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/</a></p><p>IMHO, stripping is better if binaries are uploaded to a server and the user downloads it.<br />Saving data is important too. And I am in Australia with not so great internet. YMMV</p><p>BTW I think I can guess why stripping is disabled, they prefer to get members to run their own debugger which is not possible if binaries are stripped.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bgstack15 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Does anyone have any experience to share, about if the kiss package manager is faster than yum?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>KISS is source-based so the package manager is *very* slow indeed.</p><p>Having said that I didn&#039;t try to install their new binary firefox-bin package, I&#039;m sure it would be quicker for that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I could see this alternative alternatives thing being adapted by other distros, say, ones that claim to &quot;support exploring alternatives&quot; (no pun intended, haha).</p><p>And I think it&#039;s cool that he&#039;s working on POSIX shell for everything. Portability is great. However, in my own recent experience, shell speed is an order of magnitude slower for certain things like text parsing, than python. There&#039;s a reason some things are written in real programming languages...</p><p>Does anyone have any experience to share, about if the kiss package manager is faster than yum?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The Kiss team seem to be making good progress with their project, i read today they have implemented their own version of alternatives.</p><p><a href="https://getkiss.org/blog/20200202a" rel="nofollow">https://getkiss.org/blog/20200202a</a></p><p>Really nice website too, definitely&#160; &quot;kiss&quot;. When i get some better hardware i will definitely give this distro a try.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 11:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yeti wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>only an AMD64 version?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That is correct.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>getkiss.org wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>The distribution targets only the x86-64 architecture and the English language.</p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Yes, source-based distributions are certainly an aquired taste but the customisation possibilities are interesting, especially with KISS&#039; language-agnostic packaging system.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Endless possibilities... and only an AMD64 version?<br />Or am I just overlooking the hidden endless list of architectures and ports?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 11:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yeti wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Lol.</p><p>Yes, source-based distributions are certainly an aquired taste but the customisation possibilities are interesting, especially with KISS&#039; language-agnostic packaging system.</p><p>I&#039;m tempted to build <a href="https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86_64/apk-tools" rel="nofollow">apk-tools</a> and use that to install large binary packages like FF and possibly the kernel. Or perhaps fork the repositories and try to get GitHub&#039;s CI/CD to build them for me.</p><p>Anyway, the system itself is gorgeous. Very elegant.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>yeti wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>bitcoins are the real energy hogs.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Only quoting that line without the one straight after it is not a fair move.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yeti wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!</p></div></blockquote></div><p>bitcoins are the real energy hogs.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are folks who like source-based distros, and they enjoy compiling their packages...so I believe source-based distros have and serve a purpose.</p><p>I&#039;ve been using Venom Linux for about 3 weeks now. It&#039;s a rolling source-based distro based on LFS. It also has its own package manager that will download and install the dependencies for each package in the repos. It&#039;s probably one of the easiest to use source-based distros that I personally know of. It has performed flawlessly for me so far, but I don&#039;t know if I will be able to continue using it...and I hate that. My computer only has 2 CPUs, 4 GBs of RAM, I have a slow internet connection, and I can only devote around 5 hours a day on that computer. Most packages compile and install pretty quickly despite that, but periodically one comes along that takes hours to compile on my system due to all that I mentioned above. I&#039;ve been waiting to upgrade those packages every Saturday, because I have more time then.</p><p>Still, it&#039;s a fantastic system and fun to use.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yeti wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>HevyDevy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Thanks for sharing....I would need some better hardware to be able to give kiss linux a try, maybe oneday when i can afford a 24 core thread ripper a few RTX2080t&#039;si and shiteloads of ram <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>at the moment im stuck with an old intel celeron quad core machine with 1.5 ghz with a whopping 1 thread per core.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Compiling everything from source yields a QA problem for the maintainers.<br />Distributions based on delivering the same binaries to everyone are more maintainable.<br />And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!<br />Ok... not really... but we should ask whether we really need them...<br />Do usefull things with your CPUs and for most of us that does not include compiling every binary on your harddisk yourself.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Lol, it would save countless unicorns too!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (HevyDevy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>HevyDevy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Thanks for sharing....I would need some better hardware to be able to give kiss linux a try, maybe oneday when i can afford a 24 core thread ripper a few RTX2080t&#039;si and shiteloads of ram <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>at the moment im stuck with an old intel celeron quad core machine with 1.5 ghz with a whopping 1 thread per core.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Compiling everything from source yields a QA problem for the maintainers.<br />Distributions based on delivering the same binaries to everyone are more maintainable.<br />And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!<br />Ok... not really... but we should ask whether we really need them...<br />Do usefull things with your CPUs and for most of us that does not include compiling every binary on your harddisk yourself.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing....I would need some better hardware to be able to give kiss linux a try, maybe oneday when i can afford a 24 core thread ripper a few RTX2080t&#039;si and shiteloads of ram <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>at the moment im stuck with an old intel celeron quad core machine with 1.5 ghz with a whopping 1 thread per core.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 06:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Head_on_a_Stick wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>OK, been trying it out a bit more. No X yet because it takes so long to compile stuff.<br />It is incredibly minimalist, even more so than Alpine Linux.Nice :-)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thank you Head_on_a_Stick, for testing it. I think it is not my cup of tea. Compiling ALL stuff takes so many time.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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