Your "opinions" are not worth entertaining, as they fall well short of the level to be considered valid opinions.

Very.

before it's too late.

Calm down man and take medicine for nervous tension. Yes, yes, of course. This is not a threat. Your thoughts are as strange as the inability to recognize a simple fact. Hardware support of this operating system is tragic.

the easiest way to offer-fork it.

Then fork it already.

troll-posts

Apparently you did not understand the essence. The author proposed an alternative operating system that apparently works well with its hardware. However, it is well-known that this operating system does not work well for various hardware components. And worse, the author of this system refuses to correct the situation. In that limited sectarian community, so small that they can not test their operating systems in a wider range of hardware, they have the easiest way to offer-fork it.

Just stop making an even bigger ass of yourself and run along and play with your FreeBSD.

You're making an outstanding idiot of yourself and should just stop now before it's too late.

Do you threaten me? I will repeat. I do not care about your clown's opinion.

discretion of nvidia corporation...

Quite right. Nvidia has neither the time nor the desire to work with tedious sectarians who consider themselves elite.

This makes me wonder how often Theo de Raadt assumes an alternate online persona and strategically troll-posts against his own distro.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

I do not care about your clown's opinion.

Quite right. Nvidia has neither the time nor the desire to work with tedious sectarians who consider themselves elite.

Given their aims, it isn't worth their time.

Given the huge market share of Nvidia, it is understandable why the sectans do not have time for it. Thanks to God, Debian and Devuan are not so sectarian.

Do you think I have nothing to do? Man, I'll tell you a terrible secret. In FreeBSD 12, I can install the Nvidia driver very easily with simple command

pkg install nvidia-driver

And do not even need to compile it.

It only proves how advanced their sectarian paranoia is [bla, blah, blah]

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

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Well OpenBSD have not ported the reverse engineered nouveau driver, nor does there seem to be any interest in doing so, but that's not to say that it's been expressly prohibited.  There is the nv(4) driver which works for some, for some older hardware (which hasn't been removed), but that's about it.  In all other cases it's the VESA driver or buying supported hardware (hint: as is often the case with any OS).

It's worth noting that FreeBSD haven't ported the Linux nouveau kms driver either.  There was an effort, as I recall, about a decade ago which stalled and there has been little or no interest ever since (partially because there is the well maintained vendor BLOB and partially due to lack of interest/developer time).  I remember reading that early non kms xf86-video-nouveau did kind of half work at one stage as I recall, probably around 7.0-release (just a little before I first started using FreeBSD).

nouveau has been recently ported to NetBSD however and has been enabled by default since 8.0 release.  So some progress and now a real possibility of future cross porting to other 'BSDs (if someone wants to do it).

The nvidia proprietary UNIX (BLOB) driver is available to a particular OS entirely at the discretion of nvidia corporation - so is therefore a moot point and not worth further discussion.

Even if the BLOB were on offer, the OpenBSD project would not sign any NDAs and not permit the loading of the BLOB as a kernel module regardless, as that would be completely at odds with the objectives, history and goals of the project.

nvidia drivers have always been a pain, foss or otherwise (especially the otherwise).  Given their aims, it isn't worth their time.  If you want it to be, then become the "unofficial" nvidia contributor (or fork openbsd) and be the change you complain about.

Its developers have a strong stance on free software (they tolerate non-free software only for firmware running in peripherals--no non-free software is allowed in the kernel or anywhere in the base system).

It only proves how advanced their sectarian paranoia is.

These stubborn sectarians categorically withdrew Nvidia video card support. Nvidia is not supported in this so-called "system." Neither open source drivers nor closed code. So, they can interfere with their sectarian operating system in their asses.

Apparently your radar is spoiled. I would suggest paying attention to FreeBSD. Recently, a new version-12 has come out. I think this is a good alternative for Devuan and Debian (obviously, if things go wrong).

Its developers are fanatically committed to the UNIX philosophy of each piece of software doing one thing well...The base installation is minimalistic: Kernel, init, X, networking stack, and administrative tools are all part of the OS...

Their stock utilities are exceptional -- its variant of ifconfig is god-tier compared to Linux.

"Poor outside decisions" is the key phrase here, although the whole quote should really be revised to say something like, "prioritizes user control over applications."  (I've been told they're similar to gentoo/slackware in this way, but I've never used either distro.)  The ports and package manager is legit, just a little tedious to learn at first. 

Salient advice.  The way it partitions may be unusual to someone venturing from stock Debian-based systems.

A trick is, in your Linux/Devuan system, use fdisk/cfdisk, to mark a predefined partition as "openbsd" (I think it's A6).  Then, the openbsd installer will ask you if you want to install to OpenBSD space.  iirc, post-installation, you'll have to reinstall grub if you still want to use grub.

Side note, if anyone's interested, I wrote a few scripts (including a wifi utility) for openbsd: https://github.com/souperdoupe/crunkbon … er/openbsd

I don't agree on the motivations though: the only way to not need a contingency plan is to do whatever is possible to make the current plan work :-)

Totally with you there, KatolaZ. I will do everything within my power to help Devuan. It is my favorite OS and I want it to thrive. I just think it's good to have a contingency plan because some things are much bigger than us and well beyond our control.