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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15653#p15653</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think that the problem with sudo wanting a password was because your file was giving permission to a user called &quot;user&quot; and during the installation I set up a user with a different name!</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oops. You found a copy/paste-from-nano error. What I don&#039;t understand is why it works for me when it&#039;s like that. </p><p>I tried dillo, and it would not let me go to youtube. I didn&#039;t expect to watch video with it, but I wanted to see what I got. It&#039;s like it didn&#039;t even try to get to the page. I was able to get there with links2, and after adding youtube-dl I could download a video and watch it with mpv.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15638#p15638</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I checked <span class="bbc">/etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml</span> and found a couple of lines appeared to have been corrupted, in that the lines ended prematurely in a &quot;$&quot; sign, viz :- <span class="bbc">&lt;/actio$</span> which I corrected to <span class="bbc">&lt;/action&gt;</span>. I have also tried using</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now</code></pre></div><p>but my first attempt needed a password, so I have reworked <span class="bbc">/etc/sudoers.d/user_shutdown</span> so that it now looks like :-</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Cmnd_Alias SHUTDOWN_CMDS = /sbin/shutdown -h now, /sbin/shutdown -r now
Host_Alias LOCAL_HOST = iron, localhost
ALL    LOCAL_HOST = (root) NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN_CMDS</code></pre></div><p>this now works as expected.</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you need to add shutdown and poweroff to the list of user_shutdown commands. If one of those works better, edit the quit-dialog and /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml&#160; (You did log out and in again after adding the file to sudoers.d, right?)</p><p>I will try dillo. I only tried a couple of browsers and gave up quickly, because they needed dbus.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the info. I have checked /etc/sudoers.d/user_shutdown and it looks ok. I have now found shutdown on the openbox menu and it does seem to stop lx and ob stuff from running, although the cursor still responds. A quick press on the on/off button seems to cause an orderly shutdown!</p><p>I have installed dillo which seems to work as a nice lightweight browser. I found it when claws-mail switched to using it to render html.</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Geoff 42)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15621#p15621</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, thanks for the report.</p><p>User has sudo nopasswd enabled for halt, reboot, pm-suspend and pm-hibernate.&#160; Oh, you might have disabled that in the install. If so...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>echo &quot;user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/pm-suspend, /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate, /sbin/halt, /sbin/reboot&quot; &gt; /etc/sudoers.d/user_shutdown</code></pre></div><p> To restore it. </p><p>Right-click on the desktop should give you the openbox menu, and I&#039;ve added reboot and shutdown. Warning: Those two work without asking for confirmation.</p><p>You can tie the logout in lxpanel to one of the quit-dialog scripts in /usr/local/bin. I missed that and should add it to the blend.</p><p>elogind would pull in policykit-1 and dbus, and the user would be able to use the dbus shutdown commands.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2019 11:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15620#p15620</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I thought I would like to try this on my ancient, tiny Asus EeePC. I used refracta10-nodbus_i386-2019-04-16.iso, dd-ed it to a memory stick and once I had remembered that I needed the &lt;esc&gt; key to get the boot menu, it booted nicely and was surprisingly quick for such an old machine.</p><p>I have a small number of observations from having installed it.</p><p>As I went through the installation, I was offered an existing swap partition and I failed to realise that I had to click on it to select it, as there was only one to choose and I ending up having to start again ;-)</p><p>I changed the passwords and had to have a second go at the user pwd before I managed to duplicate it correctly. This may be to do with the tiny keyboard on the Eee PC. When it booted up I could log in and it looked sensible, however I discovered that I didn&#039;t know the root password. It took some investigation before I worked out the the root password had not been changed to the new one. This may have been finger trouble on my part, but I thought it went ok at the time.</p><p>There is no way to shutdown from within X. Providing you know the root password or are set up in sudoers then this can be worked round. I think that I can work out how to get something in lxpanel working... Is this related to not having elogind installed?</p><p>Anyway, it is all good fun, thank you.</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2019 10:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15576#p15576</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Droidus wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>evo n610c i386.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I had to google it, and the first hit was Berkeley Archeology. At first I thought maybe it was a museum piece, but no, it&#039;s just one of the items on their equipment list. If you need to save ram, run ps_mem.py to see what you can kill.</p><p>Here&#039;s the config file showing what I installed. It&#039;s not the complete package list - lots of other things got pulled in as dependencies. (Recommends are turned off.)</p><div class="codebox"><pre class="vscroll"><code>#!/usr/bin/env zsh
# config for refracta-nodbus.blend (beowulf)

version=10.0test

base_packages+=(

	bash-completion
	texinfo
	acpi-support-base
	aptitude
	apt-listchanges
	console-setup
	debootstrap
	debsums
	discover
	dnsutils
	doc-debian
	docutils-common
	docutils-doc
	ftp
	gettext
	gnupg2
#	grub-efi-amd64-bin
#	grub-efi-ia32-bin
#	grub-pc-bin
	$grubversion
	haveged
	laptop-detect
	lsof
	mlocate
	mutt
	ncurses-term
	nfs-common
	procmail
#	reportbug
	telnet
	unzip
	usbutils
	w3m
	whois
	zip
)

extra_packages+=(

	sshfs
	mbr
	w3m
	hwinfo
	moc
	ffmpeg
	ntfs-3g
	dosfstools
	live-config
	live-config-sysvinit
	squashfs-tools
	xorriso
	pmount
	pv
	rsync
	syslinux
	syslinux-common
	syslinux-utils
	isolinux
	gdisk
	irssi
	scrot
	feh
	p7zip-full
	pm-utils
	sysv-rc-conf
	tree
	file
	live-boot-doc
	live-config-doc
	dkms
	eject
	xorg 
	xserver-xorg
	xinit
	xserver-xorg-video-all
	xserver-xorg-legacy
	libelogind0
	gconf-service
	gconf-gsettings-backend
	xterm
	openbox
	openbox-menu
	obconf
#	libpam-elogind
	$linuxheadersversion
	build-essential
	lxappearance
	lxappearance-obconf
	lxpanel
	lxterminal
	lxrandr
	spacefm
	xarchiver
	libnotify-bin
	links2
	mesa-utils
	gparted
#	leafpad
	geany
	gtk2-engines
	firejail
	firejail-profiles
#	wicd		# needs dbus
	xscreensaver
	xserver-xorg-video-all
	xserver-xorg-video-intel
	x11vnc
	xtightvncviewer
	yad
	refractainstaller-base
	refractainstaller-gui
	abiword
	abiword-common
	acl
	arp-scan
	asunder
#	bleachbit 	requires policykit-1
	cifs-utils
	cryptsetup
	lvm2
	mdadm
	deborphan
	dkms
	dmidecode
	eject
	ethtool
	fdupes
	firmware-linux-free
	gddrescue
	gdmap
	geeqie
	gftp
	gimp
	grsync
	hardinfo
	hddtemp
	hdparm
	hexchat
	hexedit
	hicolor-icon-theme
	htop
	hwinfo
	iftop
	lm-sensors
	locales
	meld
	mpv
	mtools
	multiarch-support
	net-tools
#	partimage		no package
	patch
	pciutils
	ppp
	pppconfig
	pppoe
	pppoeconf
	rename
	sane-utils
	smartmontools
	strace
	testdisk
	transmission-gtk
	uuid-runtime
	volumeicon-alsa
	vorbis-tools
	vrms
	wget
	winff
	wodim
	xinput
	xpdf
	xsane
)

# Replace the default purge_packages list if you want to keep dbus.
# or add any packages you want to purge.
#
 purge_packages=(
	dbus
	debian-keyring
)

custom_deb_packages+=(
	deadbeef-static_0.7.2-2_${arch}.deb
	fig29-31_1.0.deb
	firemenu-1.2.deb
	refracta-lang_1.1.deb
	refracta2usb-2.4.1.deb
	refractasnapshot-base_10.2.1_all.deb
	refractasnapshot-gui_10.2.2_all.deb
	usbpmount-1.2+blend.deb
)</code></pre></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fsmithred)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Refracta no-dbus experiment]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15575#p15575</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just playing on refracta10-nobus. on evo n610c i386.<br />- ogg playing<br />- nginx<br />Fun!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Droidus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Guess I should have re-read this thread before uploading new isos. These are beowulf.</p><p><a href="https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/" rel="nofollow">https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>refracta10-nodbus_amd64-2019-04-16.iso&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;17-Apr-2019 01:05&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;703594496<br />refracta10-nodbus_i386-2019-04-16.iso&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 17-Apr-2019 01:23&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;687865856</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No dbus (just some libs), no *kits, no libsystemd0, most of the same apps that go into the xfce builds.<br />You can probably get rid of most of the dbus libs if you remove abiword and transmission.<br />You can replace xpdf with atril. (Not sure if that&#039;ll pull in dbus libs again, but it won&#039;t pull in dbus. I left it out to keep the iso size down.)</p><p>Made with live-sdk. I&#039;ll post the blend files when I decide where to put them.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=14161#p14161</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cool, Aitor! Thanks. I&#039;ll add it to the next nodbus build (which might be beowulf.)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Refracta no-dbus build (experiment)</p><p>wpasupplicant \ # get libdbus-1-3 here</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I recently debianized wpasupplicant without libdbus, so that simple-netaid will run without any dependency on dbus.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12217#p12217</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Shortly i&#039;ll start working on a new graphical interface for alsamixer. Volti depends on dbus.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>^ thanks for that, i tried the /etc/network/interfaces way and it just kept coming up it could not find wlan0. </p><p>wpa_supplicant seems to working fine so i will leave it alone.</p><p>I created a wifi.desktop file and it just brings up a terminal and executes the script. Pretty no frills way of connecting the wifi but hey it works and i only have two connections i can do in my home, 1 wifi connection or tether my phone for ethernet.</p><p>Cheers</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>You could set up wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces for one or more connections you use regularly.<br />Or, you could run setnet.sh to set up the wireless.<br />I&#039;ve never used wpasupplicant directly, so I can&#039;t comment on the commands, but it looks like the script would work. You could create a .desktop file that runs your script and then use that .desktop file to add an icon to the panel if you want to click to connect.</p><p>Here&#039;s a sample entry for /etc/network/interfaces.<br />This example is for WPA2 Personal encryption with shared ASCII key.<br />Items marked with ### are only needed for encrypted networks.<br />Use appropriate local IP numbers.:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>        # wireless interface
        iface wlan0 inet static
                wpa-driver   wext
                wpa-ssid &lt;ssid&gt;
        ### wpa-proto is WPA for WPA1 (aka WPA) or RSN for WPA2 
                wpa-proto RSN
        ### wpa-pairwise and wpa-group is TKIP for WPA1 or CCMP for WPA2
                wpa-pairwise CCMP
                wpa-group CCMP
        ### use &#039;wpa_passphrase &lt;ssid&gt; [passphrase]&#039; to generate hex-key
        ### enter the result below
                wpa-psk &lt;hex-key&gt;
                
                address  192.168.xxx.xxx
                netmask  255.255.255.0
                gateway  192.168.1.1 (maybe)

        auto wlan0</code></pre></div><p>Somewhere on this page tells you how to set up multiple logical interfaces for a single physical interface. (set up wlan0 for different wireless networks): <a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05" rel="nofollow">https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … rence/ch05</a></p><p>And this page says that the better way to do it is with wpasupplicant, so maybe you should ignore my advice:<br /><a href="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/367277/configure-wireless-interface-for-multiple-locations" rel="nofollow">https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … -locations</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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