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			<title><![CDATA[Re: AppImage and Devuan (special note for derivatives such as MiyoLinux).]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Trinity works OK with PulseAudio (?). I installed PA and lost all sound. It was suggested on the Trinity mailing list that I install pavucontrol and check my settings, but that didn&#039;t help. I ended up running:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>rm -r ~/.config/pulse; pulseaudio -k</code></pre></div><p>to get things working. Now I have a configuration where Trinity is using Alsa and MuseScore is as happy as a clam, as PulseAudio is intstalled. I don&#039;t claim to understand it, but it works, which is the important thing.</p><p>----</p><p>I should note that this was my tower computer experience, but I never had to run the above command on my laptop.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: AppImage and Devuan (special note for derivatives such as MiyoLinux).]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7391#p7391</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Geoff 42 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I knew nothing about AppImage, so went and had a look. VLC would play some music but failed with a video. Anyway I tried MuseScore and it wanted PulseAudio. It would run, but would not play the notes, so I tried it with apulse, as in :-</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apulse ./MuseScore-2.1-x86_64.AppImage</code></pre></div><p>and it was much happier and would play the notes.</p><p>Geoff</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Interesting, I just tried with apulse, and MuseScore note playback is greyed out <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> However, I am at this time trying MuseScore with a Vanilla Devuan minimal install with Trinity on top. Trinity uses aRts as default for sound, but apulse installed fine. Not sure if TDE is using it however. I posted in the MuseScore forum and the only reply was to install PulseAudio. I am not sure they know or care what Trinity is, so even if I installed PulseAudio, I am not sure that MuseScore would play back notes unless TDE was using PulseAudio instead of aRts. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t know if that is possible without compiling Trinity to use PulseAudio from source code.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: AppImage and Devuan (special note for derivatives such as MiyoLinux).]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7259#p7259</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay...I figured out why the terminal in i3 wasn&#039;t showing me the dependency errors. I had a brain jerkdown last night and forgot what I did in the Openbox trial installation.</p><p>I made a very...VERY basic Openbox installation to test it on. I didn&#039;t have anything but the basic right-click menu. So what I did was open PCManFM with the terminal from that menu. That terminal was the one that I left open, and it was that terminal that was showing me the dependency errors.</p><p>Once PCManFM was open, I navigated to the Downloads folder and opened a terminal there to make the MuseScore .appimage executable. Then, everytime I clicked on the .appimage to try and open it, the original terminal would show me the dependency error(s).</p><p>I just now removed one of the dependencies for the .appimage in i3 and tried it following those steps, and it worked the same. The original terminal showed the missing dependency.</p><p>This isn&#039;t ideal, but if anyone reads this thread because you&#039;re having trouble opening an .appimage in MiyoLinux, follow these steps...</p><p><strong>1. Open your terminal and use it to open PCManFM </strong></p><p>Leave that terminal open.</p><p><strong>2. Navigate to the .appimage and open another terminal in that folder to make it executable </strong></p><p>I also right-clicked the .appimage and changed its Execute permission to Anyone </p><p><strong>3.&#160; Double-click the .appimage</strong></p><p>You&#039;ll be asked if you want to Execute it. Click Execute.</p><p><strong>4.&#160; The original terminal will show you the missing dependency</strong></p><p>It may show something like...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>/tmp/.mount_VwG71Z/bin/mscore-portable: error while loading shared libraries: libpulse.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory</code></pre></div><p>The &quot;libpulse.so.0&quot; is the missing dependency. However, the leading &quot;libpulse&quot; is what is needed to be installed. I used Synaptic to search for and install each dependency. For example: libpulse0 was the name of the actual dependency as shown in Synaptic.</p><p>With MuseScore, it took 5 dependencies...I had to click the .appimage 5 times to find each one. After finding and installing the dependencies, it opened. WHEW! <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Sounds like a lot, but it only took a couple of minutes...if that long.</p><p>Edited to add: I went back and edited my original instructions in case a reader doesn&#039;t make it this far in the thread. <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7247#p7247</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MiyoLinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I&#039;m going to try this on Miyo-i3 just to make sure it works. I&#039;ll report back with more definitive dependency names and the order that they appeared during the process.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>devuan_dk_fan,</p><p>OY! i3 doesn&#039;t work like Openbox as far as showing me the missing dependencies! <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Now I remember why Openbox is my first choice with i3 second. LOLOLOL!!!</p><p>I didn&#039;t get the &quot;errors&quot; in i3&#039;s terminal like I did in Openbox. However, here are the dependencies (and the few items they pull in) that you&#039;ll need to install according to how they are shown in Synaptic...</p><p>libvorbisfile3<br />libsndfile1 (this will actually pull in the third &quot;libvorbis&quot; dependency)<br />libpulse0<br />libxslt1.1<br />liborc-0.4-0</p><p>After installing those dependencies (I used Synaptic), the MuseScore .appimage will open in i3.&#160; <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&#160; Make sure to read my post above about the possible need for PulseAudio...</p><p>Now I have to figure out why i3&#039;s terminal doesn&#039;t show the errors like the Openbox terminal...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7246#p7246</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m going to try this on Miyo-i3 just to make sure it works. I&#039;ll report back with more definitive dependency names and the order that they appeared during the process.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>devuan_dk_fan wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>No worries <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I always use the latest MuseScore AppImage partially because I sometimes run into dependency issues, partially because MuseScore has a MIDI issue that has been dogging them for a long time, that they don&#039;t seem to be able to stamp out. Sometimes when playing a score, there is a lot of static/feedback noise that makes it unbearable to listen to what you have written, which kind of is the point of MIDI playback in the first place <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>BTW, I would like to advertise another posting of mine on the forum, that I am not getting any response on:</p><p>&quot;Vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan system prompts for USB pen drives.&quot; I still haven&#039;t been able to figure that one out yet, and now I am testing a vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan install both on a laptop as well as on a home built tower computer, so it would be nice to get it sorted.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>devuan_dk_fan,</p><p>I just got the MuseScore Appimage to work in the Openbox version of MiyoLinux. It should work in the i3 version too. Here&#039;s what I did...read all of this before proceeding.</p><p>VERY IMPORTANT: OPEN PCMANFM WITH YOUR TERMINAL, AND LEAVE THAT TERMINAL OPEN DURING THE WHOLE PROCESS.</p><p>1. I downloaded the .appimage and made it executable by opening another terminal in the Downloads folder and used the command... </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>chmod u+x MuseScore*.AppImage</code></pre></div><p>Just to be sure (since I&#039;ve never used an .appimage before, I right-clicked the .appimage, went to properties, and changed the Execute permissions to &quot;Anyone&quot;.</p><p>I then double clicked the .appimage. The open terminal showed me the initial error. I was missing libvorbis something-or-other. That&#039;s what was throwing me off a few days ago, because it was showing something like libvorbis.so.3 (don&#039;t quote me on that). When I searched previously for those items from the list you provided, I was searching for libvorbis.so.3...that&#039;s why nothing was showing up for me when I searched the other day.</p><p>2. I opened Synaptic, and I searched for libvorbis.</p><p>I was given a result. Unfortunately, I didn&#039;t pay attention initially, because this was all hit-n-miss for me. Here are the items that are now installed with libvorbis in their names...I can&#039;t remember which one I initially installed, but the other two were pulled in with it.</p><p>libvorbis0a<br />libvorbisenc2<br />libvorbisfile3</p><p>3. Double-clicked the .appimage, and got another error of a missing dependency. This happened 3 more times (a total of 5 times). Each time, I searched Synaptic for the leading verbage of the missing dependency. Here&#039;s what I installed in addition to the libvorbis item(s)....</p><p>libsndfile1<br />liborc-0.4-0<br />libpulse0<br />libxslt1.1</p><p>After installing those dependencies, I double-clicked the .appimage, and it opened. <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>I didn&#039;t go any further to see if it would play, because I don&#039;t know a thing about it <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> . MiyoLinux doesn&#039;t include PulseAudio by default, so if you&#039;re still on Miyo-i3, you may have to install PulseAudio or try Geoff 42&#039;s tip.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>No worries <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I always use the latest MuseScore AppImage partially because I sometimes run into dependency issues, partially because MuseScore has a MIDI issue that has been dogging them for a long time, that they don&#039;t seem to be able to stamp out. Sometimes when playing a score, there is a lot of static/feedback noise that makes it unbearable to listen to what you have written, which kind of is the point of MIDI playback in the first place <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>BTW, I would like to advertise another posting of mine on the forum, that I am not getting any response on:</p><p>&quot;Vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan system prompts for USB pen drives.&quot; I still haven&#039;t been able to figure that one out yet, and now I am testing a vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan install both on a laptop as well as on a home built tower computer, so it would be nice to get it sorted.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7240#p7240</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>devuan_dk_fan wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Nice to hear from you <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> You are doing a great job with MiyoLinux, as are all of the developers of other &quot;spins&quot;, and much appreciated. I think that the plethora of spins is part of what makes the Devuan community vibrant and will hopefully draw new users to Devuan based systems.</p><p>I have experimented a bit with AppImages and found that all of the ones that I have tried, worked out of the box with a bog standard Devuan install, so I can confirm that everything necessary is in the official repos. A little tip, the AppImage that I have found so far with the largest amount of dependencies is the AppImage version of MuseScore <a href="http://musecore.org" rel="nofollow">musecore.org</a>. I think the dependency issue is just a matter of not cutting into the bare metal, when doing a spin, or maybe including a disclaimer with a list of possible dependencies needed for running AppImages <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>All the best...</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Strange. Perhaps I make MiyoLinux too minimal? Like Geoff 42, I&#039;ve never even tried an .appimage until seeing this thread. Perhaps it&#039;s something in my minimalist approach in how I build Miyo that&#039;s leaving out certain libraries needed for .appimage to work. I have an idea of what to change, but whether that will work or not...hmmm...</p><p>I haven&#039;t checked the jessie repos, but I do know that musescore is available in the ascii repos...but that doesn&#039;t help the current Miyo-i3 situation which is based on jessie. I&#039;m so sorry for your trouble.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MiyoLinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7221#p7221</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cool <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (devuan_dk_fan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I knew nothing about AppImage, so went and had a look. VLC would play some music but failed with a video. Anyway I tried MuseScore and it wanted PulseAudio. It would run, but would not play the notes, so I tried it with apulse, as in :-</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>apulse ./MuseScore-2.1-x86_64.AppImage</code></pre></div><p>and it was much happier and would play the notes.</p><p>Geoff</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear from you <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> You are doing a great job with MiyoLinux, as are all of the developers of other &quot;spins&quot;, and much appreciated. I think that the plethora of spins is part of what makes the Devuan community vibrant and will hopefully draw new users to Devuan based systems.</p><p>I have experimented a bit with AppImages and found that all of the ones that I have tried, worked out of the box with a bog standard Devuan install, so I can confirm that everything necessary is in the official repos. A little tip, the AppImage that I have found so far with the largest amount of dependencies is the AppImage version of MuseScore <a href="http://musecore.org" rel="nofollow">musecore.org</a>. I think the dependency issue is just a matter of not cutting into the bare metal, when doing a spin, or maybe including a disclaimer with a list of possible dependencies needed for running AppImages <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>All the best...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 07:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reporting this. I tried looking for some of those dependencies in the repos, and the few I tried weren&#039;t there. MiyoLinux uses only Devuan repos. I&#039;ll look into seeing about possibly including them in the future if they&#039;re easily tracked down and installable. I&#039;m sorry it didn&#039;t work out of the box for you.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 04:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In general, I detect a certain amount of disdain these days for non-commercial Linux distributions. A narrowing of minds appears to be occurring within the sector of the Linux community that supports systemd. I dare to predict that the next major battle for hearts and minds will take place around a replacement for X11. Just search the KDE Neon for &quot;i3&quot; and you will discover that the Neon team originally excluded the possibility of switching DEs/WMs because the consensus was that most alternative WMs will not survive the switch to Wayland. While that may be true it doesn&#039;t preclude new WMs that can work with Wayland in the future!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Follow to github for full list - and <span class="bbu">many</span> &#039;workarounds&#039;.<br />…<br />Does their version of &#039;mainstream&#039; exclude Slackware?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Somewhat Reticent)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have been having an interesting exchange on <a href="http://discourse.appimage.org" rel="nofollow">http://discourse.appimage.org</a> regarding AppImage dependencies. I have run into the problem that AppImages refuse to run on Devuan derivatives due to lacking dependencies. There are a fair amount and a bit of a bear to track down each one, so I thought that I would post a link to the exchange: <a href="https://discourse.appimage.org/t/musescore-2-1-x86-64-appimage-on-miyolinux-i3-jessie-64bit/279/6" rel="nofollow">https://discourse.appimage.org/t/musesc … 4bit/279/6</a> The final post provides a list of those dependencies that the host systems are expected to take care of.</p><p>The potential that I see for AppImage and Devuan is that I am reasonably confident that AppImages will never pull in systemd, unlike with snaps or flatpaks that very likely could draw systemd as a dependency in the sandboxed group of dependencies.</p><p>I hope this helps the Devuan team and anyone else interested in keeping a systemd free system.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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