Geoff

I am using lxde.

I prepared the sources.list, the keyring upgrade and the update from within X. I then used <ctrl><alt><F1> to get the console before I did the dist-upgrade. This took about an hour and a half, although I do have quite a lot of stuff installed! The upgrade of flightgear-base-data was over 1GB on its own...
I have the kernel metapackage installed, so 4.9 got pulled in. I also have Xen installed, but I don't use it very often and have grub set-up to default to not using Xen. I noticed that the upgrade fiddled with this. When I rebooted, the grub menu theme had been changed a bit and was quite hard to read, but I managed to select the 4.9 kernel, although it hung. I then rebooted and tried the 3.16 kernel and that was ok. I have since booted ok with 4.9 and it is fine, although it seems to take a bit longer to boot.

I was able to do the eudev stuff as above

rm /etc/init.d/udev
apt-get dist-upgrade

the only problem is that in the ps uaxf listing, eudev shows up as udevd. I'm trying to remember how it appeared in Jessie, was it systemd-udevd?

I also did the elogind stuff

apt-get install libpolkit-backend-1-0-elogind libpolkit-gobject-1-0-elogind

so that I can still shutdown from lxpanel, although there is a warning, it is displayed very briefly but I think it is org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Noreply.

I also installed lxdm, which replaced slim.

By this point it was basically working and I can log in and have an lxde session.

There are some programs which need a bit of investigation and I will go into details elsewhere, but include :-
Postfix is running in compatability mode :- https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1971
PostgreSQL has gone from 9.4 to 9.6 and needs attention :- https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1968
runit as a process supervisor was not started, see :- https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8190#p8190
Apache2 seems ok
Claws-mail works and but HTML needs attention :- https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1895
Raleigh theme not working :- https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1945

Several updates to config files were offered, but generally I kept the current ones and am now going through them. The new configs tend to be in /etc and are suffixed .dpkg-dist so can be found with

find /etc -name '*.dpkg-dist'

The other place to look is in /var/log/apt/ term.log seems to have the info that may have scrolled off your screen during the upgrade and history.log lists the packages installed.

Geoff

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1950
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 27.en.html

TL;DR:

rm /etc/init.d/udev

Then repeat the upgrade.

where is the place to "open an issue"?

Instructions to migrate from Debian are now available here.

If you don't have the kernel metapackage installed (e.g. linux-image-amd64) then you won't get the new kernel automatically on dist-upgrade and will need to install linux-image-4.9.0-4-<arch> or install the metapackage and dist-upgrade again. After installing the new kernel, you should reboot, so you're running the new kernel.

You might lose policykit-1 on the dist-upgrade. Unless you're a stoic minimalist, you'll want to reinstall it.

If you're upgrading from debian jessie or stretch, you'll need to remove systemd and systemd-shim after the upgrade. You might need to reinstall some other packages, too.

If you're upgrading from debian with gnome, you are a glutton for punishment, and you are heading for a big adventure. It can be done, but a fresh install would be easier and faster.