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			<title><![CDATA[Re: OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>psp is no better than me just not as widely used. You would have to either clean/remove PSP/ME or better get arm (e.g. ASUS Chromebook C201)<br />regarding distros: I would think that security dedicated distro even with dbus is better than home brew. This is of course my personal view.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2017 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Also great to read from <span style="color: brown">golinux</span>!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>To answer your question:<br />Since I am using Devuan in VM, I can&#039;t use grsec (only exception is VirtualBox for grsec customized by Alpine Linux). I gave up on grsec because of ended updates.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>There&#039;s<br />kernel tried to execute NX-protected page - exploit attempt?<br /><a href="https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/issues/20#issuecomment-348678535" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/minipli/linux-unoffi … -348678535</a><br />Aahh..., I gave a particular subpage... But, never mind, read how good <span style="color: green">grsec-unoff</span> is, all visitors! And it&#039;s all linked from there.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>My kernels are small ~3.7MB vmlinuz and I don&#039;t use initrd.<br />If you are asking about compiling deb kernels this is listed in debian handbook.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>No, that&#039;s not what I asked, you can, if you don&#039;t take me wrong, pls. don&#039;t do, reread what I asked.<br />See also...</p><p>But I have to post this temporarily, incomplete, else I might lose it... attacked too often lately...</p><p>Continuing. Pls read those traces linked from above that alomost undeniably indicate attemped intrusions and forgive my stuttered posting <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>My config file is really for VM. This in fact is the reason why libre kernel is working on the laptop:<br />libre disables all firmware including my intel wireless, but in VM I set guest with virtual eth0 which is NATed to whatever connection host is making.</p><p>I did install eudev without exiting X.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That note was for other future users of <span style="color: green">eudev</span></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>This is probably advantage of VM using most common virtual hardware that do not cause problems with installed OS. </p><p>If you are looking for good secure VM try Qubes, but to take full advantage of Qubes, you will have to have specific hardware. This is on the other hand quite risky considering latest revelations about bugs in intel me.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The problem is Qubes, IIRC, can&#039;t be used <span style="color: blue">without dbus</span>, and I don&#039;t have dbus, and don&#039;t want to use it, don&#039;t trust it.... My Devuan is&#160; <span style="color: blue">sans-dbus</span>.<br /> Else, I read about Qubes, I have their <span style="color: green">paxrat</span> installed in my box.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>I have found one way to completely remove ME (BIOS free space will go up from 1MB to 5MB), but I did not try it yet.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>On my AMD64 it&#039;s PSP, not ME.<br />Regards!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2017 09:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=6512#p6512</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>When I was trying ceres a month ago system was freezing often. Now, after few hours ceres still behaves. To me this means that developers are working hard to get new Devuan ready.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Just now seeing this. IIUC Devuan devs don&#039;t touch anything in ceres except for the automatic removal of some systemd pkgs.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=6511#p6511</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question:<br />Since I am using Devuan in VM, I can&#039;t use grsec (only exception is VirtualBox for grsec customized by Alpine Linux). I gave up on grsec because of ended updates. </p><p>My kernels are small ~3.7MB vmlinuz and I don&#039;t use initrd.<br />If you are asking about compiling deb kernels this is listed in debian handbook. My config file is really for VM. This in fact is the reason why libre kernel is working on the laptop:<br />libre disables all firmware including my intel wireless, but in VM I set guest with virtual eth0 which is NATed to whatever connection host is making.</p><p>I did install eudev without exiting X. This is probably advantage of VM using most common virtual hardware that do not cause problems with installed OS. </p><p>If you are looking for good secure VM try Qubes, but to take full advantage of Qubes, you will have to have specific hardware. This is on the other hand quite risky considering latest revelations about bugs in intel me. I have found one way to completely remove ME (BIOS free space will go up from 1MB to 5MB), but I did not try it yet.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=6510#p6510</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Similar setup in my machines (I use Air-Gap cloning, so it&#039;s kind of same system on master and clones, only built in Air-Gapped)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I intentionally selected the subject similar to this one:<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128</a><br />that is I did exactly the same as described in the topic above.<br />in detail:<br />1) updated Devuan Jesse <br /><a href="https://talk.devuan.org/t/upgrading-devuan-jessie-to-ascii/363" rel="nofollow">https://talk.devuan.org/t/upgrading-dev … -ascii/363</a><br />2) installed openrc<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128</a><br />and removed services I don&#039;t need</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I was late on this one:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>3) installed eudev<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1543" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1543</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>I mean, I&#039;ve deployed it on two of my system only today (and a third system will be getting it via cloning).<br />But I have a question about this one:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>4) installed libre linux kernel from sources<br /><a href="http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/" rel="nofollow">http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/</a></p></div></blockquote></div><p>And the question is (no time to research on my own right now): can <span style="color: green">grsec-unoff</span> be patched onto libre linux kernel... Umhh, no! I don&#039;t think... It gets patched on the LTS 4.9.x series from kernel.org... so, at least not directly, not without modifications...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>compiled deb kernel streamlined for my hardware/virtualbox</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I would have liked if I knew how to do that when I was trying to, months ago... But no time to research now. (But if you have quick links, I could return (at some unspecified time) later knowing where to start my research from.)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>fog wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>When I was trying ceres a month ago system was freezing often. Now, after few hours ceres still behaves. To me this means that developers are working hard to get new Devuan ready.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Yep! <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>One usuful note about <span style="color: green">eudev</span>: <span style="color: red">exit Xorg before you instal</span>l <span style="color: green">eudev</span>. On two of my machines (with same system, though, but one never sees online: the Air-Gapped master), upon installing eudev, Xorg froze. Nothing broke in the least, and the installation continued, just I wouldn&#039;t see it but in the logs later (having <span style="color: green">grsec</span>&#039;s <span style="color: green">exec_logging</span> and <span style="color: green">audit_chdir</span>enabled, I was able to know upon reboot, that it all went fine).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 22:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[OpenRC and eudev installation in Devuan ceres]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=5614#p5614</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I intentionally selected the subject similar to this one:<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128</a><br />that is I did exactly the same as described in the topic above.<br />in detail:<br />1) updated Devuan Jesse <br /><a href="https://talk.devuan.org/t/upgrading-devuan-jessie-to-ascii/363" rel="nofollow">https://talk.devuan.org/t/upgrading-dev … -ascii/363</a><br />2) installed openrc<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128</a><br />and removed services I don&#039;t need<br />3) installed eudev<br /><a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1543" rel="nofollow">https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1543</a><br />4) installed libre linux kernel from sources<br /><a href="http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/" rel="nofollow">http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/</a><br />compiled deb kernel streamlined for my hardware/virtualbox</p><p><a href="https://ibb.co/eguYgR" rel="nofollow"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://thumb.ibb.co/eguYgR/Devuan_ceres_Opeb_RC_eudev_4_13_7_libre_f.png" alt="Devuan_ceres_Opeb_RC_eudev_4_13_7_libre_f.png" /></span></a></p><p>with LXDE system takes 216MB with fluxbox or openbox this will take much less of course.</p><p>When I was trying ceres a month ago system was freezing often. Now, after few hours ceres still behaves. To me this means that developers are working hard to get new Devuan ready.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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