Have you ever read this forum's (almost) No Code of Conduct? In light of that, I am sadly locking this thread. If you persist, you will enjoy a 'time out' from posting on this forum.
]]>Fungus, your post is clearly political and tangential. I don't see what neoliberalism, veganism, and political correctness have to do with this thread. If this forum's rules prohibit political/tangential posts, then the post is inappropriate and golinux is just doing his job. Nevertheless, I agree with you that the rules need to apply to all forum/list users and that certain users should not be singled out.
BTW, I hope you realize that you are convicting yourself of selfishness and saying that you don't deserve to use Devuan when you write: "individuals who do use open/free software, do they deserve it? In my perception no, because they are doing it just for their own selfish interests." You do realize that Debian and Devuan's core is all free software? The main repository consists of nothing but free software It all goes back to Debian's founding: "The Debian Project is an association of individuals who have made common cause to create a free operating system."
As for "self restricting", we all do it: We don't associate with certain people or use certain things in the interest of avoiding harm or potential for harm. The potential for harm in using proprietary software is well documented and I'm not going to rehash that here. If your point is that free software in userspace is of little use when things are proprietary closer to metal (BIOS and firmware), then I completely agree and that's why I'm not going to waste time and effort to hop from compromised phone to compromised phone.
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Anyway, back to the main topic of the thread: I hope the Librem 5 proves to be the holy grail phone that's fully functional and uses only free software from the bootloader on up, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
If Purism makes compromises when they hit road blocks, theirs will be just another "security and privacy focused" "mostly free" phone. I think such devices are doomed from the start because most potential users (folks who care about privacy) already have a "mostly free" device that they've configured to be "security and privacy focused".
]]>Please curb your imagination! I did NOT remove you from the DNG list. At that time I did not even have the ability to do so.
More on the questions you asked above a bit later . . .
You mean there is a different golinux on the list that has blocked my account from posting? Because over the past month none of my "moderated" messages ever got to the list. I call that "removal" and I do apologize if it is a different person baptized with the same nickname. All I know is "golinux" saying:
[political rant]
Good grief. GET A GRIP! What you"re saying may be very true. BUT THIS
IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT. Please cultivate some restraint and THINK
before posting if you want to continue to post here.
golinux@dyne.org
This was after A SINGLE COMMENT after weeks to a neonazi propagandist spammer.
The next thing I know is my account being moderated. My one comment had NO PLACE there but weeks of spamming by the neonazi spammer and his "rational discussion" feeders DID HAVE A PLACE.
Go ahead golinux do what you have to do. I am done! For the rest, if there is a public archive of the list, as it should, look for a thread "Sexual politics and society" and judge for yourselves. Mine is about the last post before moderation.
]]>I have two choices, shut-up and restrict my communication to your ideological constrains "the world is the world and adding to the strife accomplishes nothing" or risk (no risk it is for sure) being thrown off the forum.
Unlike been subjected to your ideological constrains I will do nothing. I will neither comply or communicate. At least now the rest know exactly where golinux stands ideologically and how "free" this forum is.
In other words, gnu free means exactly the same as you being free to demonstrate, since the riot police is free to prevent you from doing so.
]]>Fungus, I can't comment on post #11 because the text is gone.
No, it isn't. It's just hidden with a white font color. Cursor magic will make it appear (no lemon juice needed).
]]>Regarding free software, I am not an ideologue and am comfortable with either the FSF's definition (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) or Debian's (https://www.debian.org/intro/free).
Different people obviously have different levels of tolerance for proprietary software. Personally, I tolerate proprietary firmware for mobile peripherals to work, but only as a temporizing measure until folks who are much smarter than I am figure out a way to do without.
I'm too old and tired to hop from phone to phone, but am definitely looking to switch from my current Android phone to one that runs GNU/Linux and requires no proprietary firmware. Again, that's just my game plan and what I am personally comfortable with. If other people find it fun to experiment with different phones and have more tolerance for proprietary software, they should go for it. Different strokes for different folks
]]>More on the questions you asked above a bit later . . .
]]>Should I remind you that I am the same person you locked off the DNG list because of a SINGLE reply to a spam thread that was bogging the list for weeks? It was not until MY message you decided to take action on the spam.
How else are we going to get to a common understanding what "free" really means in contrast to non-free if we are not allowed to talk about it?
]]>The only fully free phone OS I am aware of is Replicant. I've tried Replicant 6 on a few phones but I couldn't get any of them to recognize my SIM card, making the phones useless.
I'm going to hold on to my current "compromised" phone until I have something that runs only free software and, unlike Replicant, actually works for me.
]]>I'll believe in a 100% libre phone where everything works when I see a RYF announcement from the FSF.
Sorry for the noise. I'll curb my enthusiasm with Purism and will support them with half of what I had planned to. I'd at least like to see them try.
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