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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I do something similar, I make a new user and copy the stuff of one to the new, adjust the rights if necessary and then let it adjust to its new home.<br />The stuff commonly under desktop (docu, downl, media, etc,) I use for all installations in one common place and access them with fm.&#160; As I am usually on openbox and like the clean open bg.<br />Even though at times I spend 90% of my time on one distribution, there is always an itch to see what others are doing.&#160; So I end up with 7 or 8 installations at the time.&#160; Most only get a 10GB partition and end up being around 3-5GB in size.&#160; There are always good ideas on one that can transfer on another.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4940#p4940</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@fungus&#160; - there was a member (iirc&#160; dai_trying ) on the Q4OS forum that did a lot of DM and such testing .<br />He came up with script to save his home settings - all those &#039;hidden .rc type files&quot; so that they wouldn&#039;t<br />interfere with each other when he switched.&#160; - He said that sometimes settings would get written over or<br />deleted and it was a lot of work to &#039;un-switch&#039;.<br />&#039;<br /><a href="https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1027" rel="nofollow">https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1027</a><br />HTH - but it might be a little work</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4909#p4909</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The Strange thing is, I have only had issues with thunderbird and enigmail on devuan unstable and the solution was found thankfully.<br />I don&#039;t know how I did it or if someone else submitted a patch but it is fixed.</p><p>Oh and bleachbit/wicd-gtk also. But yeah minor issues easily fixable. GO DEVUAN! hehe.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (zapper)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2017 01:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4568#p4568</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Scratch this idea/mystery<br />Both dmsetup and libdevmapper are the same version on ascii now (looking at ascii now from ceres) but uuid is upgradeable from ceres to ascii<br />2.27.1 in ceres 2.28.1 in ascii ?????&#160; No, it is not a typo <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I don&#039;t see how uuid has anything to do with mice and keyboards freezing up on xorg.<br />But what is now in ascii may not be what was there yesterday and today 12hrs ago I did not see any updates.</p><p>------------------- edit this note so I don&#039;t add another ---------------------------------------------</p><p>Did check on ascii, nothing yet to upgrade and the suspected 3 pkgs are of the same edition on ascii and ceres.<br />So what the heck made a difference in ceres?&#160; Only difference is the kernel I can think about, but this hasn&#039;t <br />changed recently in relation to the problem and after last update of Linux412 the problem was not affected.<br />While the problem started first in ceres, I kept switching DMs to see whether it was DM/login screen related.<br />So the only thing different is in ceres I had last stayed with LXDM, instead of my usual lightdm.<br />So I installed lxdm in miyo-ascii but it did the same thing there too as it did on lightdm.</p><p>Note:&#160; It only freezes up when the DM/login screen &quot;first&quot; comes up.&#160; If I logoff to login to another account <br />the mouse and keyboard never lock up a second time.&#160; So it all happens when X starts and passed control to<br />the DM.</p><p>Also, while on Openbox, the logout breaks up the dm, and as openbox is shut-down and no longer exists,<br />I am stuck on a half broken session where a terminal and other windows can still be initiated (like task <br />management).&#160; If I then kill the lxdm-session then it exits out to the DM/login screen.</p><p>I guess I will have to wait for September when the dev-dev-team returns from vacating</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (fungus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4564#p4564</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Commit Log for Mon Aug 14 22:07:16 2017</p><p>Installed the following packages:<br />libminizip1 (1.1-8+b1)</p><p>Upgraded the following packages:<br />dmsetup (2:1.02.137-2+b1) to 2:1.02.142-1<br />libdevmapper1.02.1 (2:1.02.137-2+b1) to 2:1.02.142-1</p><p>Without too much investigation just the name devmapper sounds like very related.&#160; But dm stands for device mapping as well.<br />Should I break rank and forwardport it to ascii?&#160; I suspect you are thinking &quot;of course you should if you want things fixed&quot;.<br />I think I shall!&#160; If it is fixing things it will come down anyway in a few days (what happened to weeks in the mothership &quot;borg&quot;).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4554#p4554</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>fungus, look at what got updated in ceres that did not get updated in ascii. That should narrow it down.&#160; Look at /var/log/apt/history.log or see what the newest packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4544#p4544</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Update of my problems with xorg freezing mouse and key-b.<br />Since yesterday&#039;s update the next logon did not have a problem in ceres<br />Ascii still has the problem now.&#160; I have intentionally not tried much of anything to see<br />what update fixes what.&#160; So now I have to wait till the specific update rains down<br />on ascii.&#160; This makes this problem a week long, and appeared mysteriously on<br />ceres first and 2 days later on ascii.</p><p>Whatever the dev1 technicians are changing, for me at least, it seems to be working.<br />I wondered if it is linux-kernel related and in an arch based distribution I had tried<br />Linux4.13 in its early 2 steps and the mouse would freeze.&#160; I never tried then to<br />unplug it and plug it back to see whether it gets fixed.&#160; But I am wondering whether<br />a patch to fix something else would break something different and it flowed down<br />the kernel development assembly line.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4469#p4469</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>FYI<br />Debian/Devuan uses runlevels 2-5 for multi-user graphical, with 2 as the default. RedHat and SuSE refugees are confused and annoyed by this. </p><p>Single-user is runlevel 1. If you want a runlevel that&#039;s multi-user non-graphical (like 2 or 3 in rh or suse) disable the display manager in one runlevel. (3 is most commonly used for this)</p><p>Correction: Debian doesn&#039;t use runlevels anymore.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4466#p4466</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>when it does the upgrade - I watch the terminal output and it <br />pops up sometime --&#160; use can use &#039;telinit 5&quot; to set the level<br />but doesn&#039;t seem to make a difference.&#160; I think Debian uses 3-5 for gui<br />and 2 for single user- ??text?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (garyz.dev1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>At least you are trying things, I have given up.<br />What do you mean with &quot;&quot;invoke-rc.d could not determine runlevel&quot; &quot;<br />Where would I see it?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4462#p4462</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>GOOD News <em><img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> and <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></em>-- got a ceres to work&#160; - BUT only on the DE tools<em><img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></em> from the<br />cd installer of Jessie, upgraded to ascii, removed rsyslog with syslog-ng<br />reboot - purged /autoremove 3.16 image<br />upgraded to ceres (modified sources.list)<br />reboot - working okay - lots of system type folders on desktop<br />purged /autoremove 4.9 image<br />reboot - still working - loaded firefox-esr&#160; (it is missing the scroll marker on the <br />&#160; &#160; &#160;vertical scroll bar) and now doing this post<br />edit -- the default purpy theme was the issue- changed to&#160; Appearance/ xfce-flat<br />&#039;<br />will try a chroot <em><img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></em>to one of the other desktops to see if mouse/kybd are lost</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (garyz.dev1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>do you suppose that the terminal/console screen is after X shuts down<br />[and has modified the fonts/dpi? for the system]<br />OR is it a terminal emulater while inside of X??</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (garyz.dev1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4448#p4448</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>gotta go to bed --still broken<br />tried to apt-get remove x-stuff and mate-desktop<br />changed sources.list to ascii and then reload x-stuff and mate-desktop<br />still broken in my chroot&#160; = those &#039;missing&#039; files didn&#039;t help<br />&#039;<br />@fungus -- did you see this<br />&quot;invoke-rc.d could not determine runlevel&quot; ???? is it important???</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (garyz.dev1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4446#p4446</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>okaky - got a ceres setup -created a chroot for the &#039;mate&#039; desktop -used lightdm<br />it hangs with a terminal window AND unplugging/plugging keyboard/mouse&#160; NO HELP<br />&#039;<br />I inadvertently installed lightdm in the host(ceres) and sjome X stuff for the chroot<br />did a startx and got locked up - had to pwr cycle.<br />rebooted - removed lightdm -still locks up?? iirc<br />rebooted - removed the /lib/modules/4.9 series of directories - no lockkup on &#039;startx&#039;<br />&#039;<br />(in chroot-mate)tried removing the /lib/modules/4.9 stuff NO HELP<br />reboot - removed lightdm&#160; &#160;--- so now I &quot;startx mate&quot; and <em>sort-of</em> good news<br />no lockkup&#160; but I am dropped to my console !!!<br />E:&#160; /usr/bin/xterm: no absolute path found for shell: mate<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; xinit: connctin to X server lost<br />&#039;<br />I did notice there were several files missing in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d folder<br /><em>as compared to a jessie-mate setup!!</em> will list them shortly</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4420#p4420</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>ceres is just a single line on sources.list, no update, no security, or anything else.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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