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		<title><![CDATA[Dev1 Galaxy Forum / Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1272#p1272</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Devuan is on DistroWatch this week. <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1248#p1248</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not related to the topic, may use &#039;firejail firefox-esr&#039;.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (nathg)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1232#p1232</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>As a single user desktop user I&#039;d hope that Jessie was your preferred focus <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />. I&#039;ll be sticking with that for a year or so after Debian release Stretch as the current-stable and only then consider upgrading i.e. Jessie a year into old-stable (few updates, still being security updated). However having tried Devuan out for less than 24 hours I&#039;m somewhat hooked <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Not found anything wrong yet myself ... other than (perhaps/maybe) Ctrl-Alt-Fn terminal switching takes me to a already logged in (as devuan userid) sessions on each one. In contrast to in Debian where I was presented with a logon prompt on each. But that maybe just the way I have installed/set things up. No bother to me either way as I only tend to use that for switching to a more secure userid that I set up specifically for general use (no su, no sudo, limited to what other files/folders it can see).</p><p>I like using Firefox but find how they publish vulnerabilities such as <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-11/" rel="nofollow">this one</a> to be a bit .... daft. In effect guidance for potential hackers of how to breach versions that haven&#039;t upgraded. Accordingly my policy is to limit the scope of the userid that I use to run Firefox (and Skype, Kodi ...etc.) and Devuan userid doesn&#039;t fit that purpose/objective. Instead I create another userid that uses restricted bash, has no su nor sudo, its own group separate from the root and devuan owner/groups across the system ... and I just restrict access to the folders from &#039;others&#039; so that that userid can&#039;t even see the data/personal files/folders that I choose to restrict access to.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rufwoof)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=534#p534</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.&#160; I&#039;ll be reporting them over time.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (katzenmuzak)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=533#p533</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@katzenmuzak . . . Thanks for compiling that list.&#160; Those issues would have to be posted in git.devuan.org to get any attention.&#160; The best place I can think of is <strong><a href="https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong> but you might be able to dig out more targeted projects also.&#160; &#160;In addition I would post the list to dng where it might catch someone&#039;s attention (but will get &#039;lost&#039; rather quickly).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=532#p532</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for digging that out.&#160; I&#039;ll focus on Jessie for the time being.&#160; I actually had to do a reinstallation because I had runaway backporting that took out networking and other services.&#160; &#160;I notice the following about the defaults in Jessie:</p><ul><li><p>Thunar does not support SFTP </p></li><li><p>Devices ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1, and friends rearrange themselves after hibernation</p></li><li><p>NTPd is missing and must be installed manually</p></li><li><p>The default screen saver blanks the screen but does not turn off the backlight</p></li><li><p>sleep does not work not even when invoked via pm-sleep</p></li><li><p>hibernate works much of the time, but not 100%, when invoked via pm-hibernate</p></li><li><p>useragent strings for Iceweasel and others do not say Devua, this is a triviality though</p></li><li><p>During the installation, the ctrl-alt-f4 logs show many ^M indicating bad formatting</p></li><li><p>Bluetooth seems not to be found much of the time</p></li><li><p>During the installation, no timezone is available except as tied to geographic locale</p></li><li><p>During the installation, the trackpad for System76 Gazelle pro is not found</p></li><li><p>The default source.list leaves the CD ROM repository enabled</p></li><li><p>RPCBind is installed by default, remove it please</p></li><li><p>Backports should pin to a low priority, as discussed on the list and elsewhere</p></li></ul><p>How should I provide feedback about the installation process and the defaults?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (katzenmuzak)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 10:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=525#p525</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>katzenmuzak wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?&#160; There are a lot of rough edges and thus potentially a lot of bug reports to file.&#160; So where do the developers want us to focus attention?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>You might want to check what&#039;s in jessie-proposed. Those packages may get into RC1 if the feedback is positive and bug-free.&#160; Beware that the xfce4-settings package there was broken - I had to downgrade to stable version.&#160; Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s been fixed yet.&#160; After RC1 the focus will be more on ascii.</p><p>EDIT: This just posted on irc:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>&lt;Centurion_Dan&gt; Attention should be on jessie - particularly installation testing and desktop useability issues.</p></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=524#p524</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Which is more helpful for Devuan for me to run, Ascii or Jessie?&#160; There are a lot of rough edges and thus potentially a lot of bug reports to file.&#160; So where do the developers want us to focus attention?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (katzenmuzak)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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