Dev1 Galaxy Forum / Sleep button doesn't work

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:23:14 +0000

sgage wrote:

I just posted a quick how-to on the sleep button fix over in the Documentation section. If you get a chance to look at it, please et me know if you think it needs anything...

Very nice! Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:18:06 +0000

Interesting. Maybe I'll check out the conversation on bot.bot.

I just posted a quick how-to on the sleep button fix over in the Documentation section. If you get a chance to look at it, please et me know if you think it needs anything...

golinux wrote:

sgage wrote:
I will write it up soon and post in Documentation. If nothing else, you can have endless fun making the 'special buttons' do whatever you want...
Well, I won't be doing that but there are others who might want to.
sgage wrote:
Yes, I'd be interested in learning something about all that systemd junk...
Here are the first few nibbles. Probably more to come as I pinged jaromil, nextime and Centurion_Dan . . .
golinux: those should be systemd-related scripts installed by other packages
it is usually harmless for a package to ship a config file for something that is not installed
muep: If a package is not installed, why would related config files be sucked in for a non-existent purpose?
golinux: because packages include those files for the cases where they are installed alongside the thing that does not happen to be present
and because devuan is using debian packages as-is where they are suitable
golinux: and because we should not make the same mistake that all the distros have done
i.e., making it impossible to use anything else
if a package has scripts for runit or openrc or systemd, why should we remove them?
those script will never be executed if runit, openrc, or systemd is not installed
The conversation continues here on botbot.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:18:35 +0000

sgage wrote:

I will write it up soon and post in Documentation. If nothing else, you can have endless fun making the 'special buttons' do whatever you want...

Well, I won't be doing that but there are others who might want to.

sgage wrote:

Yes, I'd be interested in learning something about all that systemd junk...

Here are the first few nibbles. Probably more to come as I pinged jaromil, nextime and Centurion_Dan . . .

golinux: those should be systemd-related scripts installed by other packages
it is usually harmless for a package to ship a config file for something that is not installed
muep: If a package is not installed, why would related config files be sucked in for a non-existent purpose?
golinux: because packages include those files for the cases where they are installed alongside the thing that does not happen to be present
and because devuan is using debian packages as-is where they are suitable
golinux: and because we should not make the same mistake that all the distros have done
i.e., making it impossible to use anything else
if a package has scripts for runit or openrc or systemd, why should we remove them?
those script will never be executed if runit, openrc, or systemd is not installed

The conversation continues here on botbot.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:07:40 +0000

AntoFox wrote:

what version of mate have on you pc?

Standard Devuan Jessie - MATE 1.8.1

The same issue occurs in Ascii (where I am right now) - MATE 1.16.1

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:06:02 +0000

golinux wrote:

sgage wrote:
I was able to whip up a simple acpi event catcher and script to have the sleep button work.
Perhaps you could share your fix in Documentation?
sgage wrote:
I did notice, in my poking around, that there is a lot of systemd stuff in /etc/systemd/system, /lib/systemd, and /var/lib/systemd. What's that all about? Or did it get sucked in by something I installed maybe?
I also have these components installed and found it 'disturbing'. That question has been asked before - maybe by me - but I can't remember the answer. LOL! I'll throw it up on #devuan and see who bites . . .

I will write it up soon and post in Documentation. If nothing else, you can have endless fun making the 'special buttons' do whatever you want...

Yes, I'd be interested in learning something about all that systemd junk...

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (AntoFox) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:50:33 +0000

what version of mate have on you pc?

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:40:24 +0000

sgage wrote:

I was able to whip up a simple acpi event catcher and script to have the sleep button work.

Perhaps you could share your fix in Documentation?

sgage wrote:

I did notice, in my poking around, that there is a lot of systemd stuff in /etc/systemd/system, /lib/systemd, and /var/lib/systemd. What's that all about? Or did it get sucked in by something I installed maybe?

I also have these components installed and found it 'disturbing'. That question has been asked before - maybe by me - but I can't remember the answer. LOL! I'll throw it up on #devuan and see who bites . . .

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:15:51 +0000

I was able to whip up a simple acpi event catcher and script to have the sleep button work.

I did notice, in my poking around, that there is a lot of systemd stuff in /etc/systemd/system, /lib/systemd, and /var/lib/systemd. What's that all about? Or did it get sucked in by something I installed maybe?

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:02:04 +0000

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

If the button results in an ACPI event, you could deal with it through that: a "rules file" in /etc/acpi/events to recognize it and map to a script, and that script invoking pm-suspend, habitually placed in /etc/acpi.

I'll see if I can cobble something together.

BTW, many thanks everyone for the input/suggestions!

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:00:02 +0000

golinux wrote:

Do you have upower installed? That used to be the solution but may not be going forward. There is history in the botbot logs.

Yes, I have upower installed. It seems that the latest version of upower dropped support for some hardware - it let's systemd handle it.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (ralph.ronnquist) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:08:29 +0000

If the button results in an ACPI event, you could deal with it through that: a "rules file" in /etc/acpi/events to recognize it and map to a script, and that script invoking pm-suspend, habitually placed in /etc/acpi.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:07:13 +0000

Do you have upower installed? That used to be the solution but may not be going forward. There is history in the botbot logs.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:02:40 +0000

golinux wrote:

Does suspend work from the logout menu?

I don't see a suspend option. I am running MATE. If I select log out, it just logs me out to the greeter screen to log back in again.

Re: Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:41:32 +0000

Does suspend work from the logout menu?

Sleep button doesn't work

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:55:05 +0000

Pressing the 'sleep' button on the keyboard of my Compaq Presario desktop doesn't do anything. 'pm-suspend' works fine - the machine sleeps and wakes properly.

The sleep button does work properly in Debian Jessie.