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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Slim and build settings]]></title>
			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4482#p4482</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok I did add the extra line on both ascii and ceres, no difference.<br />Out of curiosity I looked at the arch based artix installation to see how they had it and it was reverse, it had the<br />needs_root_rights=yes but not the allowed users.&#160; Artix came with LXQT but I can&#039;t remember which DM they<br />used.&#160; It may have been slim and I switched to lightdm.<br />My devuan installation came from the official Devuan1 image and was upgraded gradually to ceres.<br />My other one was a Miyo installation that was upgraded to ascii.<br />I also did a switch from udev to eudev just in case this had an effect on anything, but no.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My Xwrapper.config (in ascii) has these lines: </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>needs_root_rights=yes
allowed_users=console</code></pre></div><p> I&#039;m using slim-1.3.6-5+devuan4rc5a1</p><p>I just did update/upgrade, and everything is still working correctly.</p><p>Update: I upgraded another installation. This one was a refracta jessie that got upgraded to ascii, and then I replaced lightdm with the same version of slim I named above. The Xwrapper.config in this system only has the one line (like yours) and everything still works. </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>allowed_users=console</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 11:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4454#p4454</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem appeared on ceres and 2-3 days later it appeared on ascii too.<br />So whatever flawed from ceres to ascii in a matter of 2-3 days had the effect of freezing the login screen.<br />There is a debian bug <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=868068" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=868068</a> but I have no idea whether it is related.<br />My old debian installation upgraded the past few days does not have the same problem, it is Devuan only.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4453#p4453</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I edited what was mistyped as non-english (is instead of if)</p><p>This is on ceres</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># Xwrapper.config (Debian X Window System server wrapper configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by the post-installation script of the x11-common
# package using values from the debconf database.
#
# See the Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for more information.
#
# This file is automatically updated on upgrades of the x11-common package
# *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of that package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command as root:
#   dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
allowed_users=console</code></pre></div><p>This is on ascii</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code># Xwrapper.config (Debian X Window System server wrapper configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by the post-installation script of the x11-common
# package using values from the debconf database.
#
# See the Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for more information.
#
# This file is automatically updated on upgrades of the x11-common package
# *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of that package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command as root:
#   dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
allowed_users=console</code></pre></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4447#p4447</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>From *bitter* experience:</p><p>I would suspect evdev (comes from X &quot;freedesktop&quot; world) or more likely one of the udev alternatives is not past unstable yet. (ceres)<br />So on ascii (testing) there will be issues.</p><p>Unless of course your trying to use wayland alone in which case good luck.<br />Wayland doesn&#039;t do anything but render stuff. (short version).</p><p>See if you have an /etc/X11/Xwrapper ?<br />( there are auth and legacy packages for X )</p><p>__the rest of this is just rambling nonsense that may or may not be useful correct or even english_</p><p>These days I short circuit all that &quot;system initialisation&quot; total nonsense by testing startx (as root).<br />If that works then work backwards.<br />(essentially all is well )</p><p>Permission / access / initialisation of pointers graphics cards and so on,&#160; are not the task of a Display Manager. Sure loading a module or driver or protocol can be a handy *side effect* but in a &quot;normal&quot; work station / desktop / thin client&#160; set of use cases other subsystems are meant to handle access to lumps of plastic, metal and wishes.</p><p>Pointer and keyboard may not be fully initialised (no mouse required for example) until you get all the way to your desktop / window manager.<br />Because:<br />The Display Manager is usually *and quite rightly* allowed access to a minimal set of files and&#160; normally hosts.</p><p> Some go further than others in allowing access some do less, its impossible to guess our preferred security needs. So less is best here. The minimum required to get you logged into whatever desktop you use on whatever operating environment.</p><p>Slim more or less assumes you are on your own host. <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />It doesn&#039;t even allow you to select a locale&#160; TZ or alternative set of languages.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PeteGozz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4421#p4421</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had not realized this before, but slim only exists in jessie and it doesn&#039;t on ascii and ceres, although some/all installers use slim?<br />I had switched to lightdm and had to use it again for troubleshooting a frozen mouse and keyboard on ceres but it behaved just<br />the same as lightdm and lxdm.&#160; So I suspect the problem is fed through Xorg</p><p>Just puzzled.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Updates:<br />UP stream fork at git hub has useful updates</p><p> <a href="https://github.com/PeteGozz/slim" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/PeteGozz/slim</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><p>- *new distro _agnostic_&#160; &quot;xamplar&quot;&#160; theme*<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; + clearer THEME / INSTALL docs<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; + tested slim.theme (example) file.<br />&#160; &#160; - More examples and comments and tidy of the system conf file.<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; (some of those already on Devuans git-lab)</p><p>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;A simple minimal panel (which can be made smaller).<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;(some silly colour examples to expose theming a little more)</p><p>&#160; &#160; - designed to work with centred backgrounds and colour<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;<br />&#160; &#160; -&#160; basic alpha level support for slimlock in themes and conf file</p><p>&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; + rough and barely tested but it does lock your screen <br />&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;which requires password access.<br />&#160; &#160;- New *hints* messages so that we can more nicely say&quot;press F1&quot; (configurable)<br />&#160; &#160; &#160; ((this is working now to a *solid beta* level))<br />&#160; &#160;-&#160; runs into slimlock interface &quot;bugs&quot; though ... I will look at that soonish.<br />&#160; &#160; &#160;- Exposes other (optional) messaging functionality like Welcome to %hostname</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Some of these thing&#160; I will merge into the Devuan GitLAB version <br />&#160; &#160;For packaging tests etc.</p><p>The INSTALL file should get you on your way.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PeteGozz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3495#p3495</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>All done and hand quilted</p><p>Which of course means that there are build issues with the package.</p><p>quilt push -a&#160; &#160;AOK</p><p>dpkg-source --commit&#160; &#160; &#160;not so much .</p><p>So normal really.</p><p>I look again with fresh eyes tomorrow.</p><p>So anyway a test build or three I did went well enough <br />(except for the /etc/slim.conf file)<br />But hand edits made that all work<br />essentially it falls over to failsafe OK</p><p>This now should be &quot;f i x e d&quot;&#160; will see tomorrow.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PeteGozz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3489#p3489</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll put in the slim&#160; theme<br />As per the link.<br />I wont change anything other than actual visibility.</p><p>^&lt;edit&gt;^^^ done ^^^^^<br />Copied over from the link.<br />Changes:<br />Moved messages to an informative position.<br />Above the entry box<br />(Where users eye line is<br />&#160; &#160;(room for any longer messages)) </p><p>Maybe a white space or two and a comment.</p><p>There appears to be no canonical source for themes ???<br />&lt;/edit&gt;<br />I will also move it under debian/<br />&#160; &#160;so that it only gets installed if there is no previous theme.<br />&#160; &#160;Which means its functionally a failsafe.</p><p>See also the config file<br />&#160; -simpler(ish) to change screen messages there</p><p>git (lightweight) tagged Kafka to remove message layout</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (PeteGozz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2017 02:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll leave the technical details to you but I do know that is not the right slim panel.&#160; You can download the latest version of the slim theme <strong><a href="http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/devuan-curve-purpy/" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong>.&#160; &#160;Note the lighter bg color of the input box, different &#039;login&#039; font and the addition of an F1 message.&#160; Username name prompt (and others) appear in #dad9dc over the input box with this theme.&#160; You might want to consider the session info placement in relation to the F1 message on the panel too:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/devuan-curve-purpy/panel.png" alt="correct slim panel" /></span></p><p>Yeah, it&#039;s BIG . . .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (golinux)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3445#p3445</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a snapshot of a test of what I&#039;m proposing as the failsafe theme.<br />Its essentially purpy with some tweaks to message positioning and higher contrast font colours.</p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6DOd-QcjJNNOUd6MU4tMnhvRXM/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6DOd- … sp=sharing</a></p><p>There are configure file changes. <br />I also need to detect if the desktop set is in place at install time.<br />(and not set this in the configure file or even not install it ...?)</p><p>I have not built a working deb yet.</p><p>(there may be quilt patch issues)</p><p><a href="https://git.devuan.org/PeteGozz/slim/tree/tribulate0" rel="nofollow">https://git.devuan.org/PeteGozz/slim/tree/tribulate0</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>PeteGozz wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>&#160; &#160; <br />&#160; &#160; type -&#160; exit&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;exits</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Can&#039;t find the smiley with the big-eyed look of shock. Damn. Thanks for that. I didn&#039;t know.</p><p>Maybe the text over the entry box should say &quot;username or command&quot; instead of just &quot;username&quot;. Check with the boss (a.k.a. She who has command over all things visual.)</p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p>If I am not mistaken in the other system that would log in user exit and activate the exit daemon and open an exit shocket.</p><p>Don&#039;t mind me, I may not know what I am talking about, I just skipped to devuan out of pure intuition</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2017 06:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Will the input layout be the same as currently?&#160; I hope it will be for continuity.&#160; &#160;At a minimum please keep to the minimal swoosh and logo or just a solid purpy BG.&#160; &#160;(Sorry you&#039;ll have to imagine the butterflies and planets . . .)</p><p>Note that F11 at slim login screen takes a screenshot with scrot and puts it in /root/slim.png.&#160; Thanks to fsr for figuring that out.&#160; Should make things easy for you.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>golinux wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Positioning items on the slim screen is challenging to say the least.&#160; You have my sympathy.&#160; That&#039;s why the layout is currently so sparse.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>This is why in the upstream (not devuan not debian) version I will do a visually basic theme that exposes the engine&#160; more. </p><p>Not because its pretty or&#160; tasked with branding but so that there is a template to do all that design stuff with.</p><p>I have the debian 8+ (?)&#160; examples as well now to look at.<br />The first observation is that there are too many release specific directories of themes.<br />2&#160; should be plenty.&#160; We have already dumped all that <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>They put the instructions greyed out in the entry field. Which is nice.<br />My thought would be: Icons (generic)&#160; first then text as an adjunct.</p><p>But not my call ! (and I don&#039;t want or think it should be).<br />Though I&#039;m so _bad_ with GUI things ... maybe <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>So I&#039;m looking at the incoming ceres/sid&#160; stuff later today...</p><p>With a view to ascii.<br />(there is not much at all so far that I have seen) </p><p>... Butterflys ... I&#039;m seeing butterfys ... and planets .... <img src="http://dev1galaxy.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Positioning items on the slim screen is challenging to say the least.&#160; You have my sympathy.&#160; That&#039;s why the layout is currently so sparse.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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