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Devuan without elogind

dummy@example.com (Valera) — Thu, 18 Jun 2026 18:18:36 +0000

Without Elogind, LXQT works great and is versatile. On my system, the Turnstile+ Seatd+ Turnstile-dbus+ Dinit-dbus+ Dinit+ Polkit-turnstile bundle works perfectly. Sleep and Hibernate do not work with XFCE- requires Consolekit . I think without Elogind can make KDE work, but it doesn't make much sense.

Why not use runit? Do you guys use runit?

dummy@example.com (greenjeans) — Thu, 11 Jun 2026 20:13:19 +0000

How do you make the decision what is it important?

Good question, and easy to answer really. I start off with a netinstall iso, install just the basic system with no DE or anything. Then I boot into that console, and all that's there generally will never change. Then I start apt'ing packages and everything after that is fair game.

The base system has been solid for all of the 10 years i've been using it, no reason to change it IMO, it always works for me.

I do support all those who work on runit, dinit, openrc etc. More options are almost always good, whether I choose to use them or not.

More systemd is coming - what is the plan?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 22:30:10 +0000

A brilliant and oh so helpful observation . . . NOT . . .

Will Wayland on Gnome etc. work on Devuan 6 in the future release?

dummy@example.com (yurimodin) — Fri, 29 May 2026 19:32:17 +0000

JMHO but Gnome is unusable for a desktop traditionalist like me......I have been Gnome free since Gnome3

Age Verification

dummy@example.com (stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn) — Fri, 29 May 2026 14:27:16 +0000

after reading this thread it is appropriate to introduce/mention/promote/reference/support/etc the ever-awesome(imhho) Cory Doctorow!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow

see also his very successful kickstarters:

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fyi, no affiliation other than to buy, read, and support all his many varied global efforts.

Why has no one enhanced sysvinit?

dummy@example.com (EDX-0) — Wed, 27 May 2026 01:06:00 +0000

ought to wonder if since i wrote shed based on the sysvinit architecture it can be considered an augment to sysvinit or just another component that can be used in conjunction to it

Devuan and KDE on Excalbur

dummy@example.com (jue-gen) — Mon, 25 May 2026 08:20:06 +0000

I have KDE Plasma on Excalibur in addition to xfce. I’m watching the development. So far it’s going well. I think it will continue to do so in the future.

New to Devuan

dummy@example.com (soulstenance) — Thu, 14 May 2026 23:42:40 +0000

Thanks!

Yep, method one is what used on Debian 12 and I imagine it should work the same on Devuan. Worst case, I have to do a manual install, or stick with ESR, which is fine. I used to hate ESR since streaming DRM content was broken/unsupported, but I don't stream anymore so that's irrelevant.

Missing GRUB Bootloader in installer images, since Daedalus.

dummy@example.com (soulstenance) — Wed, 13 May 2026 19:14:42 +0000

Ventoy is cool, but I stopped using it when I found certain Linux ISOs to be flaky or have issues at boot or install. This sounds similar to what I experienced though it was too long ago to recall what issues I had. If you want the convenience of having a ton of distros on one USB to test and mess around with, Ventoy is fine, but I'd recommend ditching it and just flash the specific distro you want onto your USB drive the normal way.

Devuan on PC replacing the smartness in smart TV

dummy@example.com (pcalvert) — Wed, 13 May 2026 10:21:37 +0000

Even if Wi-Fi and Bluetooth can't easily be disabled, one could still block them using a firewall. And since Bluetooth could be useful for controlling the TV box, one could configure the firewall to only allow connections from specific MAC addresses.

systemd compatibility layer

dummy@example.com (JCK) — Mon, 11 May 2026 19:39:30 +0000

A recent discussion on the subject: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/ … 724.0.html

[SOLVED] DEVELOPERS: Please repackage Devuan to install with secure boot on

dummy@example.com (TNAndy) — Mon, 27 Apr 2026 15:56:19 +0000

I was wrong: Windows 11 does not require secure boot to be on (enabled) to boot. I'm not even sure it needs to be on for Windows to be installed.

After Devuan is installed make sure the shim packages are installed. If they are, it appears that it doesn't matter if secure boot is on or off. In order to install Devuan, turn secure boot off, but after it's up and running, it no longer appears to matter how it's set. In order to install nVidia drivers secure boot must be off or else you will have to supply the paths to both private and public keys. I don't know where those keys are kept, but the driver loaded with secure boot off and I'm not going to fiddle with it any more.

My problem was actually something else entirely. Linux and VMD are incompatible. Turn VMD off in the UEFI/BIOS. Once it is off, the Devuan installer can detect the SSD(s) and you can partition them normally.

If you are dual booting an ASUS laptop (and maybe desktop) see this web page for valuable insights: https://asus-linux.org/guides/intro/

I also turned off hibernation and fast boot. Note these are Windows settings, not BIOS. There's another fast boot in UEFI/BIOS and just to be sure, I turned that one off, too.

Recent install

dummy@example.com (decuser) — Fri, 24 Apr 2026 21:25:48 +0000

Nice, thx @golinux, @fsmithred. This is helpful. I particularly like the return to old debian. Yes, when devuan forked, I was ambivalent. I wasn't that concerned, did systemd break things, not for a user who was only getting used to linux as daily driver, after all this time though, systemd's gone nuts, init just isn't that hard, which I guess they agreed with, cuz then they started getting their fingers into everything. The most recent ones that I noticed were logging (really?) and now birthdays? wow, talk about mixing concerns. Anyhow, I appreciate the banned packages list. Nothing concerning there. I'll be trying my new environment out with an eye toward a stronger move if it works out.

Devuan completely without systemd?

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Mon, 20 Apr 2026 02:53:57 +0000

And it is a waste of devuan resources to repeat the obvious for the umteenth time . . .

A picture is worth a thousand words:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/log/unstable-banned.svg

Seamless Devuan Project

dummy@example.com (Daemonratte) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:26:18 +0000

Ah, thanks!
Time to integrate it